Thoughts on the JP Tier List 6/7/15

The list.

Let me preface this by saying I don’t know exactly how reputable this site is for PAD analysis nor is my Japanese good enough — or Google’s, for that matter — to know exactly what is being said. I still feel it’s worthwhile to take a look as this site’s list gets a lot of attention on NA. Also, what is relevant for JP now will be relevant for NA in a couple months. This exercise will also give me a better basis when updating my monster ratings.

Combo Lead Domination

2012 - Awoken Ra1937 - 最強戦士・超ベジット2011 - Awoken Bastet1954 - Awoken Shiva

With the release of strong awoken/uevo combo gods this shouldn’t be much of a surprise.

TPA Sub Domination

1726 - Awoken Hinokagutsuchi1743 - Restrained Dragon Hero, Liu Bei1747 - Sparkling Goddess of Secrets, Kali1738 - 覇征の龍武王, Cao Cao

All 5 of the 6 S-rank subs have TPA awakenings. 4 of the 6 have at least two TPAs and would be considered “true” TPA subs. Many would still say row awakenings are more powerful — and from a math standpoint they wouldn’t be wrong — but the quality of TPA’s best subs are much higher and the plethora of hard-hitting combo gods recently released are better primed to take advantage of them.

Fire Solidified as a TPA Element

1954 - Awoken Shiva1726 - Awoken Hinokagutsuchi1738 - 覇征の龍武王, Cao Cao

Fire’s movement toward TPAs began with Awoken Kagutsuchi, became more readily apparent with PAD Academy and Vegito and is now firmly established with Awoken Shiva and R/G Cao Cao.

I’m Sorry, Cao Cao

1738 - 覇征の龍武王, Cao Cao

Speaking of Cao Cao, I didn’t give him much credit as he wasn’t fire’s Liu Bei nor was he R/B for Urd, but now that he’s an ideal sub for two of the best leaders in the game — Vegito and Shiva — he’s solidified himself as one of the best subs in the game. There’s certainly some merit in arguing Cao Cao is better than Liu Bei as he still hits incredibly hard, also supplies an orb change and provides so much more utility with his delay, skill bind resist and extra skill boost.

Baggi Bias

859 - ドスバギィ&バギィネコ

It seems like any water leads on this tier list — particularly Lakshmi — are boosted by Baggi’s ridiculous power level. This is something NA will probably never get, so we need to adjust most water leads down a notch or three.

Damage Reduction Gets the Respect it Deserves

859 - ドスバギィ&バギィネコ1926 - Heaven-Shaking Thunderdragon, Indra1556 - Demon Slayer, Susano no Mikoto1902 - 究極装備 Thief2094 - Phoenix Rider Valen

Most people know Baggi is nuts by now. Many know that Indra is one of the best combo subs. The biggest surprise here is Susano, one of the most maligned monsters from one of the most maligned pantheons. My Verdandi team has been enjoying my max skilled one for weeks now and I hope he starts to get more respect. Rounding out this group are Theif and Phoenix Rider. Surprisingly absent are Dark Izanami and Yuna, but if GungHo keeps with the power creep, uevo DIza and an inevitable uevo Yuna will certainly be on this list.

Delays Are Still Strong

1937 - 最強戦士・超ベジット1738 - 覇征の龍武王, Cao Cao1741 - Soaring Dragon General, Sun Quan1221 - BAO Batman+S. Gloves Act FB1903 - 究極装備, Time Mage

The glory days of Echidna are long past, but there are still plenty of strong delay monsters: Vegito, Cao Cao, Sun Quan, Light Batman, and Time Mage.

NA is Hardmode

1937 - 最強戦士・超ベジット2030 - Cloud & ハーディ=デイトナ859 - ドスバギィ&バギィネコ1561 - 超サイヤ人第三段階・トランクス1902 - 究極装備 Thief1903 - 究極装備, Time Mage

Vegito. Cloud. Baggi. Trunks. Thief. Time Mage. NA is missing out on so much. Strange enough, I don’t feel too salty about it. I know my wallet isn’t shedding any tears.

Awoken Meimei Underestimated?

2075 - Awoken Meimei

I’m certainly biased here, but I feel like Awoken Meimei should have received more love. Then again, considering the quality of the monsters on the list, just being on it seems to be praise enough.

Everything Else Is a Hero or Full-Board Change

Conventional wisdom still has a place in the game.