| Godfest: Greco-Roman & Chinese 6/30, Japanese 1 & Egypt 2 7/1 | |||||
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Criteria
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Day 1 | Day 2 | |||
| Greco-Roman | Chinese | Japanese 1 | Egypt 2 | ||
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Leader
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Individual | B+ | B+ | C- | B+ |
| Combined | B+ | B- | |||
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Sub
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Individual | B | A- | B | C+ |
| Combined | A- | B- | |||
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Overall
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Individual | B+ | A- | C+ | B |
| Combined | A- | B- | |||
Thanks to GungHo, I had very little time to prepare this godfest review. It’s not as robust as I’d like it to be, but I wanted to get it out ASAP. I may make some changes to the post later, particularly for day 2.
Day 1 is a great day to roll, particularly for subs. The Chinese are some of the best subs in the game and the Greco-Romans are no slouches either. Both pantheons are also great situational leads, the resist clauses of their leader skills making child’s play of endgame dungeons they line up well with. If you need the Chinese in particular, this is a great time to roll as NA should be getting their awoken uevos within the next couple months or so.
Day 2 is nothing special… yet. The prize of Japanese 1 is Awoken Kagutsuchi, but the rest are outdated as subs and they are all poor leaders. Conversely, Egypt 2 are underwhelming subs, but are great as leaders, their HP and RCV multipliers being extremely strong. They are all overshadowed by the newest uevos, but there is hope. Hopefully GungHo will finish what they started with Kagu and give the rest of the pantheon awoken uevos. Egypt 1 is next in line for uevos which could be incredibly strong. Not the greatest day to roll, but they could be gold someday.
| Name | Lead | Sub | Overall |
| Day 1, 6/30 | |||
| Greco-Roman | |||
| Minerva |
B+ | B+ | B+ |
| Neptune |
B | C | B- |
| Ceres |
B+ | B | B+ |
| Venus |
B | B+ | B+ |
| Hades |
B | B- | B |
| Chinese | |||
| Leilan |
B+ | A- | A- |
| Karin |
B+ | A- | A- |
| Meimei |
B+ | A | A- |
| Sakuya |
B+ | C- | B- |
| Haku |
B+ | A | A- |
The Greco-Romans received some of the first awoken uevos, but with the advent of power creep they’ve slowly fallen back towards the mean. While they are all still very powerful as both leads and subs, their time in the spotlight has passed. Minerva used to be the prize of the pantheon, but with fire getting some great TPA support some of her shine has faded. Venus and Ceres are the best after her, being irreplaceable for the teams that want them.
The awoken Chinese, on the other hand, are hot off the press and are obviously good, even with their strange typing. While their awoken uevos have more raw power than their old sub-specific uevos, both forms are still extremely strong and this flexibility only enhances their value. They are all powerful as dupes and reaching four means you can make a powerful system team, basically having a board change available to you every turn. I’m confident to say they have reclaimed their crown of top subs back from the Heroes… but my pantheon grade won’t reflect that because Sakuya drags them down. Ah, yes, Sakuya. Her uuevo is strong, but not as powerful as most would’ve liked. Although her gravity has gained a bit of relevancy due to the Ultimate Arena guaranteed Py dungeon.
| Day 2, 7/1 | |||
| Name | Lead | Sub | Overall |
| Japanese 1 | |||
| Kagutsuchi |
D | A | B- |
| Orochi |
D | B- | D |
| Susano |
B- | B | B- |
| Amaterasu |
B- | B- | C+ |
| Yomi |
D | B | D |
| Egypt 2 | |||
| Set |
B | C+ | B- |
| Nut |
B+ | B | B+ |
| Osiris |
B+ | B | B+ |
| Hathor |
A- | D | B- |
| Nephthys |
B+ | C+ | B |
The Japanese 1 are barely retaining relevancy as subs and are completely outclassed as leaders. Kagutsuchi is the obvious prize and will be a key sub on future Awoken Shiva and other fire TPA teams. Susano is also quite strong in spite of his active being on a 15-turn cooldown. Amaterasu would have more relevance if NA had Cloud. Yomi is still usable on combo teams, but is far from ideal anymore. And Orochi is, well, Orochi.
Egypt 2 are all capable leaders with Osiris and Hathor generally considered the best of the bunch. Their damage may seem underwhelming, but don’t underestimate the value of their HP and RCV multipliers. As for subs, Nut and Osiris are not bad for uevo Sarasvati and Awoken Bastet respectively. The rest suffer from not having skill up fodder in the NA. They are considerably better as subs than Egypt 1 once was since their actives are better, but their awakenings leave much to be desired.
Please feel free to leave questions in the comments; I’ve relaxed the comment settings so you should be able to post anonymously, if that’s your thing. I’ll try my best to get to them ASAP as I know how time sensitive it can be, but that’s assuming life is cooperative.
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Hey I’ve been reading your blog for a while, really love it! I’m pretty new to PAD (under 100 days played) and am having a tough time deciding where I should be rolling. Currently running the Ronia/Beelz for descends but I’d love to have a few options. I’m thinking a Ra team, green TPA, maybe red TPA. I think mostly I need to get a bunch of the GFE’s. Lkali, Dkali, Dmeta, Verd etc.
Here’s my https://www.padherder.com/user/Azalin/
I only do a bit of IAP so I don’t just want to throw stones at something that doesn’t have a lot of benefit as far as the pantheons, but those GFE’s seem pretty essential to what I want to build. I’d be interested in your opinion if you can spare a few minutes!
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Your box has many, many directions it could go and is very nice for sub-100 days! You mentioned green TPA and Verdandi; while I’m certainly biased toward wood teams I think these are perfect for you. I would try to take advantage of your two Liu Beis. You also have Meimei and Sasuke who are also very good and will round out the rest of your subs. All you need is a leader. Verdandi would be ideal, but leads like Bastet and Osiris and eventually Vishnu would be great too.
I think the other teams you mentioned are a lot further from completion. While Ra is pretty damned sexy, a lot of that rides on having perfect subs and you don’t have any Kalis. But who knows, you may roll some in the future so your plans could take an unexpected change.
In the mean time, I’d continue work on your RSonia team and I’d roll in godfests that would benefit both that and a wood team. Day 1 of this current godfest is actually pretty good for you, but for non- or light-IAP I can only suggest waiting for the PCGF. Unfortunately, that is about 5 months away, so I guess it comes down to patience. I think your assessment of really only needing GFEs is also correct, so really any godfest that tickles your fancy is worth rolling in, assuming the 1x rate GFE isn’t something you want, of course. I wish you luck for whenever you do decide to roll and I’m glad you enjoy the blog!
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That’s great, thanks so much. I definitely don’t have the patience for waiting for the next PCGF, heh. I think I’ll do a few rolls day 1 and pray for a Neptune. Hopefully that’ll increase my chances of not getting him. Thanks again!
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Good luck!
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I just found your blog today and I really enjoy your thorough analysis of everything. Thank you!
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Thank you, I appreciate it!
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Pretty solid assessment. Still no “good as dupe” feature, which I think the Chinese pantheon deserves a bit of a nod considering how the awokens get haste and can form systems, but otherwise I mostly agree.
A few quick questions/comments: For haku, is her sub value mostly her awoken version, or is DD the heavier influence? Infinirog vs devil teams, which was the bigger sway? Also, How does Ama get B- leader, B- sub, but C+ overall? That one doesn’t really make sense to me…? Other than that, I agree with your diagnosis.
I am out of free stones because of PAD Academy, but all is forgiven because I rolled an Isis chan. I’m honestly only going to be rolling (spending) for Chinese and Heroes from now on, all I really want is to get and then try out the new GFEs and some Chinese Systems when they become available in NA. So far I’m ready for Karin, I have 3, and with a friend, we’ll have some fun. I also have 2 Genbus and a Leilan, but no Hakus yet… 😦
I can’t complain though, I have more than enough to work on as is, complete with three or four different potentially endgame teams vying for attention… It’s a good problem to have, but a time consuming one. (and… I rambled again. Meh.)
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Yeah, I didn’t have time to implement the dupe rating so I figured I’d wait rather than rush it. The Chinese definitely deserve a boost because of it.
For Haku, both of her forms are great individually, but she’s extremely valuable because you have the option to go down either path. At this point it’s hard say which form is better, but I’d say her devil form is more useful. For now.
The discrepancy in Amaterasu’s ratings is a result of generating grades based on a standard distribution. When you combine both the leader and sub scores into a single rating, there is an overall regression towards the mean as things get averaged out. In other words, there are very few cards that are either very good or very bad as both leads and subs. Amaterasu happens to be mediocre at both (in my scale, a B- is below the mean), so her composite grade fell relative to everyone else. I noticed this too when generating the report and it definitely looks strange, but to me it’s a sign that my ratings system is working even if it doesn’t make a lot of sense at first glance. I was going to make a note of this in the original post, but I forgot to in my haste. Damn you and your two hour notice, GungHo!
Grats on the Isis. Rolling for Chinese and Heroes is a good (or bad because you don’t already have as many as you’d like?) place to be as they are the best overall pantheons atm. Personally, I’m only going to roll in 3K godfests for Cao Cao, at least until Kaede comes out. Good luck with your teams!
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So sadly, I did not roll a MeiMei to complement my three wood leads this godfest. However, I managed to get 2 more Leilans, totaling up my Leilan count to 4. Am I able to do a Leilan System with Ilm much like the MeiMei system with Zuoh? From my standpoint. The Ilm-Leilan system will be weaker than MeiMei due to the lack of TPAs. Leilan uses rows and that’s hard to make 4 combos with colors utilizing rows, especially when you have less than 9 light or fire. With that said, would a Leilan system be beneficial in any way? With a different lead perhaps?
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I haven’t run actual numbers, but I do think the Ilm-Leilan system is weaker than Meimei for the reasons you stated. However, those reasons may be largely irrelevant. Just a plain 36x is enough to clear most trash floors of Rush-level dungeons. It’s also likely an average 2-color Ilm board will do similar if not more damage than an average Meimei or Zuoh board. Just a cursory look at YouTube makes it look like the Leilan system is quite good. Either way, it’s a huge investment, but if you decide to go for it I hope you like it.
Here’s the YouTube search I used in case you were curious: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%E3%83%91%E3%82%BA%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9+%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB%E3%83%A0+%E3%83%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3
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Thanks so much for the YouTube link! I don’t speak Japanese so sometimes I can’t search up what I want 😦 The system sure does look interesting and Ilm does have huge burst since he gives two colors opposed to Zuohs three. This would be a really long term project but thank you for the insight!
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If you want to search for JP vids, you can preface your searches with “パズドラ”, which is basically “PAD” in Japanese. Then you can look up the Japanese spelling for a monster on PDX, copy paste it and it should bring up relevant vids.
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I would really love to have a Chinese god or a Greco-Roman god, and this godfest happens to have both pantheons. Cheers!
Did five rolls, got one gold (Hatsume), the rests were silvers and a troll gold :C
I wish I wasn’t too lucky at Tamadra Retreat the previous day (got a bunch of fat tamas and only 2 evil tamas out of 3 runs) so I would have a bit of luck for this godfest.
I really love your blog, it motivates me to go through the grindy early game. Since I’m going to hit the hard part (descends, weekday mythical, etc), could you look through my box and give me some insight about how I should progress, if you don’t mind? Here’s the box: https://www.padherder.com/user/Abnormale/
I’m around 80 days into the game and I’m going to need some tips from experienced players instead of going through everything on my own, making dumb mistakes like spending a stone on a mystic mask.
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I know I’m not Setsu but I hope I can help a bit. Looking at your box, the best leader you have would be U&Y. The 25x multiplier will get you through most of early mid and late game. Rainbow teams with 4 colors maybe hard at first but if you can master U&Y, you’ll get far in the game. In addition, rainbow teams offer a little more leeway in subs since you can use many colors so it’s not a hassle to have four great subs of one color. Also, you have great blue subs and 2 Bodins. Your cost is low now, but later in the game you can use both. If you ever roll a Skuld, you can also go mono blue Skuld team with the blues you currently own. The test of the box has pieces of teams but nothing really jump out yet. If I had your box, I would work on U&Y while trying to collect stones from dungeons to get more diverse gods before coming back and see what teams you can build. Hope this helps!
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It looks like we pretty much have the same advice. It’s good to know I’m not way off.
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I definitely agree you’re at a difficult point in the game. I really think GungHo would be well served to make this part of the game a bit easier to get through as it would likely improve player retention. They could make it easier to gain rank or by giving more team cost to work with.
Judging from your box, all of your stones need to go into godfest rolls. Right now you just need to improve your overall box quality. As your box improves, which teams you can make and what content you can tackle will become clearer. The next PCGF will occur in about 5 months and I strongly suggest saving as much as you can for then. It’s a long ways away, true, but it will be worth it. If you IAP you don’t have to be as patient, but instead of targeting a specific god, I’d target godfests that have good overall quality.
In the mean time, I don’t see any obvious directions to take with your box, but your water monsters look to be the best. Until you roll more options, the name of the game has to be focus. Try to make sure all your stamina goes into improving your water box (or whatever element/team you choose). I’d use U&Y for descends and for farming I’d consider leading with BOdin and pairing him with a friend Skuld. Once you hit rank 2-300, then you can start branching out.
Weekday mythicals are a strange thing since they require specific team makeups. I wouldn’t worry too much about making teams for them unless you need them for skill ups. I’d rather save pal points and try my luck on the Rare Evo Mat PEM for evo mats.
It’s difficult for me to give pertinent advice, particularly since I powered my way through much of the early game with the help of my wallet. If you have questions on anything more specific, I’d be glad to chime in. Good luck!
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Tyvm for the advices 😀
I guess I should start practicing U&Y in endless and saving up stones now.
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