Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 11/10/15: RIP Baggi Edition


Changes from 11/6: None
SS 2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
S 2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon2255 - Sea Deity, Neptune Dragon2011 - Awoken Bastet2012 - Awoken Ra2389 - Awoken Sakuya2013 - Awoken Anubis2325 - Awoken Yomi2230 - 気狂いピエロ, Kite2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon1847 - Maleficent Phantom Dragon King, Zaerog∞
A+ 1954 - Awoken Shiva2445 - 最大の強敵, Raoh1937 - 最強戦士・超ベジット1955 - Awoken Lakshmi2443 - 還爪の青龍契士・Ryuune2393 - Awoken Idunn&Idunna2226 - 制約と誓約, Gon Freecss1747 - Sparkling Goddess of Secrets, Kali2148 - Dawn Sky Sun Dragon Caller, Kanna1951 - Tome-Creating White Phantom Demon, Ilm2030 - Cloud & Hardy-Daytona2447 - 南斗最後の将, Yuria2441 - 裁爪の橙龍契士・Saria2395 - Awoken Thor1901 - 最強装備, Juggler1949 - Lightning Black Dragonbound, Typhon2407 - Mistress of the Old Castle, Kali2360 - Mankind's Strongest Soldier, Levi
A 1947 - Lightning Red Dragonbound, Gadius2006 - Avowed Thief, Ishikawa Goemon2009 - Awoken Horus2206 - Broad-Minded Hell Demon, Scarlet1841 - 大弯の海龍王, Volsungr2080 - Wise and Moral Goddess, Sarasvati2386 - Soul-Judging God of Dark Riches, Osiris1956 - Awoken Parvati2387 - 彩天聖命神・Hathor2324 - Awoken Amaterasu Ohkami1644 - Arbiter of Judgement, Metatron1953 - Enraged Black Phantom Demon, Zuoh


Changes from 11/6: Baggi S→A+
S 1738 - Dominating Warrior King, Cao Cao2081 - Divine Creator of Order, Vishnu1747 - Sparkling Goddess of Secrets, Kali2148 - Dawn Sky Sun Dragon Caller, Kanna2078 - Blazing Goddess of Power, Kali2150 - Ominous Moon Dragon Caller, Satsuki2407 - Mistress of the Old Castle, Kali2180 - Pacifying Yomi Goddess, Izanami
A+ 2094 - Phoenix Rider Valen1726 - Awoken Hinokagutsuchi2235 - Avenging War Deity, Ares859 - ドスバギィ&バギィネコ2010 - Awoken Isis2236 - Psychopomp Commerce Deity, Hermes2443 - 還爪の青龍契士・Ryuune1743 - Restrained Dragon Hero, Liu Bei2075 - Awoken Meimei2441 - 裁爪の橙龍契士・Saria1785 - warrior rose, graceful valkyrie2076 - Awoken Haku2290 - Snow-White Beauty, Valkyrie Claire1847 - Maleficent Phantom Dragon King, Zaerog∞2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
A 2073 - Awoken Leilan1670 - Norn of the Past, Urd2384 - Ruling Firestorm God, Set2074 - Awoken Karin1733 - Blue Chain Starsea Goddess, Andromeda1674 - Norn of the Future, Skuld2322 - Awoken Orochi2494 - 巡警の星天使・Famiel2390 - Thought Spinner Norn, Verdandi1734 - Green Star Vanquishing Deity, Perseus2146 - Fall Wind Jasper Dragon Caller, Kaede2237 - Moon Flower Huntress, Artemis1373 - Genius Sleeping Dragon, Zhuge Liang2496 - 煌斧の星天使・Ariel1887 - 幸七羽毛・ヘッドロココ2238 - Brilliant Sun Deity, Apollo2324 - Awoken Amaterasu Ohkami1926 - Heaven-Shaking Thunderdragon, Indra2281 - Creator God of Twin Skies, Izanagi2497 - 冥鈴の星天使・Lumiel2292 - Bleak Night Daughter, Pandora1953 - Enraged Black Phantom Demon, Zuoh1736 - Wailing Bleak Night Goddess, Pandora2273 - Deliberate Rebel, Akechi Mitsuhide

The Game8 list

Not much of an update, but I thought the sole change warranted its own post: Baggi has fallen from the S to A-tier subs. I don’t think the demotion is justified, but one reason I do like it is that it might make people understand that water teams can be fully functional without him. I guess the change is just a reflection of the sorry state of water teams and that he isn’t quite as useful in off-element teams anymore. For high-uptime damage shields, fire has Phoenix Rider, wood has Armin and dark has DIza.

Now Cao Cao really seems out of place.

5 thoughts on “Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 11/10/15: RIP Baggi Edition

  1. I’d been expecting Baggi to drop for a while now, honestly. BTW, Game8 also seems to be switching over to a numerical evaluation system at the moment. Not sure if they’ll carry it over to the main tier list but, it’s present on a few of the individual card’s evaluation pages. Ares scored a 9.0 as a sub. Satsuki was the only S rank sub switched over and she had a 9.5. Still waiting on Cao Cao.


  2. Huh. Well, RIP Baggi. Haven’t seen him as a sub in the arena ever, so I guess that’s got to be a part of it lol.

    With so little blue love going around, it’s not that big of a surprise. Still, he’s been there so long, it DOES come as a surprise😛

    Kinda like juggler losing S tier I guess. So much hype, then powercreep happens lol.

    Personally, I think all the high uptime shields are S tier for their respective colors. An AS that is effectively 35% more HP and RCV 60+% of the time is really darn good IMO.


      • I would speculate it’s because of the existence of Susano. 5 turns of 50% is better than 4 turns of 30%, but uptime is key, and I feel like they’re just overlooking the fact that with haste, you can have 30% shield permanently… which is pretty strong in many many teams. IDK.

        All in all, I think they focus on offense over defense. Think about it, Ryune/I&I are A+, but can consistently farm S tier content… I’ve been told. Susano is stupidly good as a shield, but not even on the list, while Liuuu bei was S tier far longer than he deserved to be. Indra is an A tier sub, while Kanna is S tier…?

        All in all, the list is a bit wacky when it comes to subs. No real news there, we’ve been saying it for the past dozen updates or so, and it’s just gotten wackier as time goes on. The leads are more or less OK. Debatable, but OK. The subs though, needs some re-evaluation for sure…


        • That’s a good point about them valuing offense higher and it makes sense looking at the list from that point of view. It’s a bit strange since the earliest iterations of their list valued shields quite high, then they pretty much fell off except Baggi. It actually took quite a long time for DIza to get where she is. Armin aside, I’m still confused why Susano isn’t at least in the A-tier. Meh.


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