Rating the Godfest: 12/12-12/13

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon combinations.
Godfest: Constellations & Norse 12/12, Constellations & Heroes 12/13
Criteria
Day 1 Day 2
Constellations Norse Constellations Heroes
Leader
Individual B+ A B+ B+
Combined A A-
Sub
Individual B+ B+ B+ A-
Combined A- A
Overall
Individual A- A+ A- A-
Combined A+ A+

I wasn’t expecting them to push out the Constellations (or “Machine Star Series”) so soon, but considering how GungHo likes to chain major REM releases to efficiently pillage our bank accounts, it makes sense. Luckily, the new pantheon is quite good for one that doesn’t have uevos. Their applications aren’t as readily apparent as the Sengoku pantheon, but their flexibility to be relevant subs on just about any type of team is what makes them valuable. They’re also fairly strong leaders.

After getting their awokens, the Norse pantheon is a strange one. Surprisingly, I have them rated as the #1 overall pantheon. The numbers check out due to the way I set up the rating scale — pantheons that both lead and sub well are rare, meaning the Norse jump up the curve since they’re good at both — but that definitely doesn’t tell the whole story especially since being good at both isn’t all that much of an asset in the endgame. They’re only exceptional as leaders because of the HP boosters they pair with, not simply due to their own raw power. As subs, their value as a method to address the Kalis in the Arena definitely gives them a boost. They’re certainly a great pantheon, but you do have to understand why they are and how they can help your team. All being said, day 1 presents very good value. I’ll personally be rolling this day in hopes of chasing down that elusive Loki and landing the super cute Spica. The Christmas REM basically being a dud also helps my decision to roll this day.

Day 2 is also quite good to roll in and I’d imagine there are way more people that need the Heroes than the Norse. Despite being rather old, the Heroes are still some of the best subs in the game. Sadly, they’re almost obsolete as leaders, especially in light of the recent upgrades to the Valkyries.


The Constellation Pantheon

Following in the footsteps of the Sengoku pantheon, the Constellations are a very strong new pantheon offering despite not having uevos. One advantage the Constellations have over the Sengokus is that they’re better suited to sub for a wider range of teams. All teams can use two skill bind resists, almost all teams can use a heartbreaker with haste and all teams can benefit from orb enhances. Their heart enhances shouldn’t be ignored, either, as they’re basically passive RCV buffs, something that is very useful for teams that struggle with the stat. Finally, the ability to also change jammers, poison and mortal poison is a big deal, especially in the Arena. Their biggest weakness is the lack of skill boosts, but there’s only so much a brand new pantheon can offer.

They’re also surprisingly good leaders, their 25% resists giving them an effective boost to HP and RCV against the four elements that aren’t their main element. While they resist less than the Greco-Romans and Chinese, they resist more elements and also have a bigger ATK boost at 4x when matching-five. Antares, Alrescha and Spica can also take full advantage of the Marionettes, using the element change to change bosses to a resistable element. They also have the capability to clear the Arena, although it’s questionable how consistent they are at doing so.

Constellation Pantheon Thoughts
Monster Notes
2416 - Thorned Mechanical Star God, Antares Antares has an Arena clear. I’m not sure how much a clear legitimizes any leader as the sub pools are so powerful nowadays, but it’s certainly still a merit worth considering. He’s great on just about any fire team. I can see him having use on Awoken Shiva since he allows you to run two triple dongers as the fire ones lack SBRs; 2x Shiva, Antares and Cao Cao/Yamato/Urd/etc will give you 100% SBR.
2418 - Milky Way Mechanical Star God, Alrescha Alrescha also has an Arena clear. She has a bit more synergy within her element than the others since water has OE-based leads like Sarasvati and Nut and her orb change also combines nicely with Ryune and Skuld.
2420 - Dark Plant Mechanical Star God, Spica There are quite a few Spica Arena clears, but I like this team a lot. Spica gives Perseus a run for his money. He’s still relevant because of his skill boosts and heartmaking, but outside that Spica is almost always better, if only for the haste.
2422 - Musical Winged Mechanical Star God, Pollux I couldn’t find an Arena clear with a Pollux pair, but here’s one with Saria (that horrible audio commentary). She’s (?) at a disadvantage compared to Antrares, Alrescha and Spica since there’s no on-element Marionette synergy to cover the gap in her resistances. She does have the advantage of having access to Raphael, though.
2424 - Destruction Palm Mechanical Star God, Castor I also can’t find an Arena clear with a Castor pair, but there are a couple with Yomi Dragon. Although those teams also have a Yomi Dragon as a sub, so it’s not like you can totally escape the MP cost. Although it’s still a nice consideration if you have the Yomi Dragon subs but don’t have the MP to spare. Castor was originally going to be a key DMeta sub, but now that they gave her a SBR his role is severely diminished. His best fit now is probably on Yomi Dragon. Not resisting dark is likely the biggest liability of all the elements.

Grading scale. Ratings are weighed in favor of endgame viability. Ratings try to take the latest JP updates into consideration. The overall grade is not an average and is based on the normal distribution of the combined lead and sub ratings.
Day 1, 12/12
Name Lead Sub Overall
Constellations
2416 - Thorned Mechanical Star God, AntaresAntares B+ B+ B+
2418 - Milky Way Mechanical Star God, AlreschaAlrescha B+ B+ B+
2420 - Dark Plant Mechanical Star God, SpicaSpica B+ B+ B+
2422 - Musical Winged Mechanical Star God, PolluxPollux B+ B+ B+
2424 - Destruction Palm Mechanical Star God, CastorCastor B+ B+ B+
Norse
2392 - Awoken FreyrFreyr B+ B+ B+
2393 - Awoken Idunn&IdunnaIdunn & Idunna A- B+ A-
2394 - Awoken FreyjaFreyja A- B+ A-
2395 - Awoken ThorThor A- B+ A-
2396 - Awoken LokiLoki B+ B+ A-

I pretty much went over everything I wanted to say about the Norse in the intro since I thought it was important to emphasize that information there. If you’re in the market for a damage enhance or just want a good tank lead, then the Norse are for you.


Grading scale. Ratings are weighed in favor of endgame viability. Ratings try to take the latest JP updates into consideration. The overall grade is not an average and is based on the normal distribution of the combined lead and sub ratings.
Day 2, 12/13
Name Lead Sub Overall
Constellations
2416 - Thorned Mechanical Star God, AntaresAntares B+ B+ B+
2418 - Milky Way Mechanical Star God, AlreschaAlrescha B+ B+ B+
2420 - Dark Plant Mechanical Star God, SpicaSpica B+ B+ B+
2422 - Musical Winged Mechanical Star God, PolluxPollux B+ B+ B+
2424 - Destruction Palm Mechanical Star God, CastorCastor B+ B+ B+
Heroes
1732 - Stormy God-Emperor, Yamato TakeruYamato Takeru B+ B+ B+
1733 - Blue Chain Starsea Goddess, AndromedaAndromeda B+ B+ A-
1734 - Green Star Vanquishing Deity, PerseusPerseus B+ B+ B+
1735 - Revered Monkey King, Sun WukongSun Wukong B+ B B+
1736 - Wailing Bleak Night Goddess, PandoraPandora B+ B+ A-

Day 2 is a great day to roll. There’s really not much to say about the Heroes that hasn’t been said before. The combination of great awakenings and a 2:2 heartmaking orb change ensures they’ll be relevant for a long time. As rows are making a comeback, the Heroes are key subs for those teams. Yamato has Shiva Dragon, Andromeda has Neptune Dragon and Ryune-I&I, Perseus has Sylvie-Freyja, Sun Wukong has Saria-Thor, and Pandora has DMeta and Typhon. Even outside of row teams, they’re still great (like Pandora on Yomi Dragon). The Archangel uuevos are encroaching on their territory, but hopefully their own uuevos come in the near future.


Please feel free to leave questions in the comments; I’ve relaxed the comment settings so you should be able to post anonymously, if that’s your thing. I’ll try my best to reply to them ASAP as I know how time sensitive godfest advice can be.

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39 thoughts on “Rating the Godfest: 12/12-12/13

  1. Is there any strong leader pair with Freyr? Thor, Idunn&Idunna, and Freyja have GFEs practically made for them, and Loki works as a better Sonia with Beelzebub. Maybe I’m missing something, but who would Freyr pair with to earn the same grade as Loki?

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  2. setsu, i was the person who asked you about building beelzebub / devil teams just now. Just intersted- should i roll in day 1 so i can have loki for beelze team?

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    • No, where you’re at in the game you can’t afford to roll for a single god, especially since there are no Kalis that day. I’d save your stones for now and concentrate on raising your dark box.

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  3. Im not thrilled that constellations are paired with heroes, it seems like everyone should have at least 3 or 4 heroes by now so just rolling for constellations is meh. Im not rolling on day 1 because there are no Kalis so there is no point. End of the year GF looks to be Fire gala so here is hoping I can spend my stones somewhere before year end.

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  4. So I am trying to build a more overall rounded team for my yomi drag team. Currently I am using Yomi drag, okuninushi, awoken haku, akechi mitsuhide, and flex. My flex atm consist of D/L zeus, diza.

    my question is should I try rolling for Persephone or Pandora to try and get an orb change for my last flex?

    My ultimate goal is to get another yomi drag but if I roll the new Eschamali or a Dark valk before that I think I would stop with that and work on another mp dragon.

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    • I don’t think either Persephone or Pandora are very good subs to single out and chase after. If you have them already, they’re good at filling holes, but that’s about it. I’d definitely wait for Eschamali to come out, then maybe by some miracle we’ll get 4x GFE + dark gala + Heroes + Greek.

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  5. Ugh I desperately want Idunn&Idunna, she is the missing piece on my water team T^T But definitely not worth rolling just for her, not at all…and I need to save up my stones after blowing them all on PCGF. Only have like 17 right now *flips table*

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  6. Why is Pollux’s resistances not as good the RGB constelation gods? Sure, you can end up getting L kali in arena, but Light has access to Zeus and Hera, which means you only need to deal 1.5mil (3 mil with shield) to knock it into red where Pollux resist works (unless your running nordis for rows, then i see why). other wise, it will resist every hard/annoying stage in arena (Zhou yu, Drall, Kagu, Parvati, zues dios, Lifive, Zaerog (if he gets light absorb,) and DQ hera)

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  7. I’m running a Shiva team right now (Demolishing Creator Shiva, Blazing Cyberdragon Thuban, Blazing Shrine Maiden Chiyome, Gigas the Great, Firedragon Grand Tyrannos) I’m lookingvat replacing Tyrannos with Saria as soon as I get the team cost.
    Would you agree that I should roll on Day 2? I’d love to get that yamato to replace Gigas

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      • I can’t give accurate advice without knowing more about your box and spending and playing habits. Just making assumptions from your you team comp, it sounds like you’re either fairly new, non- or light-IAP or both. If that’s the case, it’s generally not a good idea to roll for only a single specific roll; waiting for a godfest with multiple hits and better value is usually a better idea.

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            • Gotcha. I think you’re on the right track with Shiva. I think day 2 is fine to roll in. I think both the Constellations and Heroes are all-around good enough to help you on just about any team in the future. The Constellations are particularly nice to help you hit skill bind resist requirements for things like the Wednesday dungeon. I wouldn’t feel bad about rolling today. However, with the gala having so much influence nowadays, it may be better to wait for a godfest that overlaps with a fire or wood or whatever your element of choice happens to be. I think the next PCGF is far enough away that you should look to improve your box soon so you can start working on possible new teams instead of waiting for better value. There’a always the possibility of 4x GFEs or some other better godfest lineup, but there’s definitely an opportunity cost in waiting.

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  8. Non-IAP issues: one roll available and torn between the Christmas REM (the healer girls) and rolling one more time on today’s GF for one of the Constellations/Norse or Urd. Still really lacking a good fire lead and not sure if these are strong enough. The PCGF and your fire team advice helped my box a ton and this non-IAPer really appreciates any thoughts you might have.
    https://www.padherder.com/user/Ghostin/

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    • Recommending what to do with what is essentially a YOLO roll is difficult because your fate is more in the hands of RNG than any other factor. That being said, I’d probably roll in this godfest rather than the Christmas REM. Your fire box is still your best bet going forward and while the Christmas REM has some nice pieces, I don’t think any of them are all that much better than your current options. RKali is obviously good for everyone, but Mini RSonia and Kagutsuchi are comparable to the other two Christmas fire offerings. The Healer Girls are nice silvers, but since you’re fire-focused and already have a normal Echidna their value is not that high for you.

      I like this godfest more as all the Constellations are solid leaders and subs for their respective elements and just about team type. Antares might actually be your best leader if you could manage to roll him. Sanada is a great sub for him. Now the question would be whether you roll day 1 or 2. I can see Freyr being a nice sub for you, but since there isn’t an obvious leader pair he’s kinda limited as a leader. You could find some Christmas RSonias to pair with; Freyr doesn’t qualify for her leader skill, but that may be good enough for where you are in the game. I&I would not be bad for you either since Karin, Summer Urd and Andromeda are a solid start of a Ryune-I&I team. I actually like day 2 for you a bit more. Yamato is a great fire sub and he isn’t a terrible leader. You risk some Hero dupes, but Andromeda is not a bad dupe to have so that really only leaves Perseus as a dead roll.

      You should probably save your stones, but if you must roll, I think day 2 is the best, but I would not blame you for rolling day 1.

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  9. I pulled a Pollux but I’m not really sure what to do with it. Does it trump Valk on teams like A Sakuya? I don’t have an l or d kali, so I was considering trying Sakuya/Elia/Pollux/diza/chocobo/sakuya.

    I typically run Yomi and have the perfect team for it, but I miss my Ra and Sakuya from time to time.

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    • I think there’s some give or take in Pollux vs. Valk, especially with LValk getting a skill boost soon, but I value hastes very highly so I’d say Pollux. But with your proposed team, what are you using to cover wood?

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      • Oooooh, you’re right! Haha. I completely spaced it while thinking about it this morning. Oh well, back to the drawing board.

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  10. I luckily just rolled a 2nd dkali and can have perfect radra team once I hypermax everything and latent resist.

    I did read somewhere that chocobo works differently/better in some cases for arena due to higher hp and awakening resists? Can you give some comments or insights to the tradeoff with 1 less sbr ? Or is that just ppl without dkali talking

    Thanks!

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    • In practice I don’t think Fatty is better in any case. One advantage he has is that you don’t have to invest as much into latent resists, but the lack of an SBR is a very real problem if you’re trying to maximize consistency. That being said, Fatty is certainly a good alternative to that second DKali.

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  11. GFE taunting me, wanted Ilm, had Zuoh and Typhon.

    Three rolls: Alrescha, gadius, zuoh #2. Only in this game can you have amazing luck but still curse.

    I’m curious as to what kind of team to make with Alrescha- I have I&I, Andromeda, Karin (2), Nut, Lakshmi, the cyber and mech beasts, Skuld, Famiel and SQ. I spent a ton of time and bubpys on Lakshmi and now I’m just throwing my hands in the air.

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    • Even when you’re lucky in this game, you’re still not lucky.

      I think Alrescha’s a fairly legit leader, but I think missing Hermes or even Gabe really hurts.

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  12. Hi setsu! What are your thoughts on this. I have the MP to buy my second Yomidra when that comes back around, but I just rolled spica and have the subs from her arena clear you posted. Which do you think is a better use of MP, that or purchasing the green puppeteer? I would be subbing akechi for Yomidra to build the ideal team, or the pupeterr for freyja/sylvie teams and spica.

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    • Yomi Dragon is a way better Arena lead, so I’d go with that. The catch is you also have to get the dark resist latents. You’d have to spend 500-600k MP on them or wait about 2 months for them to be farmable.

      I don’t see the Spica team being all that consistent — binds and such — so unless you just really want to run the team, I think the actual decision is whether to buy another Yomi Dragon or not.

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  13. I figured as much but thank you very much for your feedback =) I suppose I was just curious if the addition of a puppeteer would have more objective worth than the gain inconsistency of yomidra over akechi, but I will not argue that a second yomidra would be super awesome.

    I will be waiting for the dark resist latents, I am patient (enough) and still need to farm plus eggs to hyper the team regardless =)

    Lastly, have you ever lead with Kaede? =) I see him as your profile pic, but you only list him as a sub under teams! =D

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