JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 22

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: Liu Bei ❀➞3
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
1
2972 - 碧地の風龍喚士・Kaede
2
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2969 - 星刻の時龍契士・Miru
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
3
2971 - 藍海の水龍喚士・Sumire
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
2920 - Godlike Chivalrous Thief, Robin Hood
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
1955 - Awoken Lakshmi
2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
1956 - Awoken Parvati
2814 - Library Room's Manager God, Kali
2929 - Moonlit Feline Goddess Armor, Ace
2389 - Awoken Sakuya
2904 - Awoken Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
2662 - Awoken Pandora
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera

Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.


For the first time a while, I was ready to do this post on Saturday, but I was waiting on Pad Plus to update their popularity list. Turns out they were actually on time, but they slightly changed things so my script wasn’t picking up the latest page. Then they also slightly changed their format so I had to update scrape script.

JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card Notes
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
Change: ❀➞3

This change is due to GameWith adding him to their SS tier. To be perfectly honest, it’s puzzling why he wasn’t there earlier, considering their list also factors co-op.

New Card Holding Tank

New cards will be held here temporarily in an attempt to isolate the aggregate list from knee-jerk ratings.
Card Notes
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
Ranked Sites: Game8 (SS), Game8 Co-op (S), GameWith (S), AppMedia (S+), PadPlus (1)

The consensus seems to be that she’s very strong, but not on Kaede’s level. I don’t think anyone would disagree with that. All other comparisons aside, in practice she’s certainly inferior since she doesn’t have as much movement time as Kaede or Miru. Player skill has never been a stated criteria for these lists, but I’d be surprised if that didn’t play a role in her judgment.

2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
Ranked Sites: Game8 (S), GameWith (SS), AppMedia (S+), PadPlus (2)

Perhaps to many people’s surprise, Ronove is doing about as well as Gremory in these lists. While the rainbow + heart-cross playstyle might sound intimidating, unlike Gremory, Ronove’s team has plenty of time extends. And, as stated last week, his active is much stronger than it looks in text.

2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), Game8 Co-op (S), GameWith Farming (S), PadPlus (9)

There’s been much talk about how good Cao Cao actually is, but at least from the aggregate’s perspective, Game8 appears to be the outlier. We’ll see where he lands when he leaves the holding tank next week.

3019 - 流浪人, Himura Kenshin
Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S+)

2916x ATK sounds quite impressive, but when you see the team in practice, the damage numbers aren’t as big as you might think (still large, but I was expecting way more). Mainly because your combo count is so low and the only offensive awakening you can consistently take advantage of are OEs. However, I guess saying 8+ digits of damage is “low” just reflects how ridiculous teams are nowadays. Perhaps I’ll be more impressed once JP gets to play with the cards themselves instead of just watching a demo; I’ll reserve judgment until then.

3033 - 新撰組三番隊組長, Saito Hajime
Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S+)

Saito sure looks great on paper, but it’s hard to judge a card just by that. As with Kenshin, I’ll be waiting for videos out of JP.


Jump to: Game8 | Game8 Co-op | GameWith | GameWith Farming | AppMedia | Pad-Plus


Game8

Original source
Changes from last time: None
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SS
2972 - 碧地の風龍喚士・Kaede
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
S
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2969 - 星刻の時龍契士・Miru
A
2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
2971 - 藍海の水龍喚士・Sumire
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2920 - Godlike Chivalrous Thief, Robin Hood
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
1955 - Awoken Lakshmi
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2929 - Moonlit Feline Goddess Armor, Ace
2904 - Awoken Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
2750 - Awoken Apollo
2389 - Awoken Sakuya
2751 - Awoken Persephone
2325 - Awoken Yomi
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2662 - Awoken Pandora
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon

Game8 seems to be standing pat on their Cao Cao rating. I’ll be curious to see if he remains there once they’re forced to update their list for the Kenshin cards.


Jump to: Game8 | Game8 Co-op | GameWith | GameWith Farming | AppMedia | Pad-Plus


Game8 Co-op

*This list isn’t factored into the aggregate result.
Original source
Changes from last time: None
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SS
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
S
2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
2972 - 碧地の風龍喚士・Kaede
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
A
2006 - Avowed Thief, Ishikawa Goemon
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2920 - Godlike Chivalrous Thief, Robin Hood
2568 - Guardian of the Sacred City, Athena Another
2969 - 星刻の時龍契士・Miru
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth

Jump to: Game8 | Game8 Co-op | GameWith | GameWith Farming | AppMedia | Pad-Plus


GameWith

Original source
Changes from last time: Liu Bei added to SS, Ronove B➞SS, Sephiroth B➞A
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SSS
2972 - 碧地の風龍喚士・Kaede
SS
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
2969 - 星刻の時龍契士・Miru
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
S
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera
A
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2971 - 藍海の水龍喚士・Sumire
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
B
3069 - 聖徳の麗女神・Sarasvati
2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
2920 - Godlike Chivalrous Thief, Robin Hood
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
2662 - Awoken Pandora

GameWith Changes of Note

Card Notes
2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
Change: B➞SS

When’s the last time a 5-star has been rated higher than it’s 6-star equivalent? I’m about as fine with this ranking relative to Gremory as I am with Sumire relative to Kaede and Miru, but whatever.


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GameWith Farming

*This list isn’t factored into the aggregate result.
Original source
Changes from last time: Cao Cao added to S, Superman S➞A
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SS
2006 - Avowed Thief, Ishikawa Goemon
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera
S
2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
2179 - God of the Destroying Lance, Odin
2657 - Heroic God-Emperor, Yamato Takeru
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
2255 - Sea Deity, Neptune Dragon
2691 - Capt of 10th Squad, Toshiro Hitsugaya
A
2226 - 制約と誓約, Gon Freecss
2689 - Former R&D Chief, Kisuke Urahara
2764 - Cloud & Fenrir
2824 - Guardian of Metropolis, Superman

Jump to: Game8 | Game8 Co-op | GameWith | GameWith Farming | AppMedia | Pad-Plus


AppMedia

Original source
Changes from last time: Gremory SS➞S+, Ronove S➞S+, Kenshin added to S+, Saito added to S+
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SS
2972 - 碧地の風龍喚士・Kaede
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
S+
2969 - 星刻の時龍契士・Miru
2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2920 - Godlike Chivalrous Thief, Robin Hood
2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
2971 - 藍海の水龍喚士・Sumire
3019 - 流浪人, Himura Kenshin
3033 - 新撰組三番隊組長, Saito Hajime
S
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
1955 - Awoken Lakshmi
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2814 - Library Room's Manager God, Kali
1956 - Awoken Parvati
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
S-
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
2904 - Awoken Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
2255 - Sea Deity, Neptune Dragon
2766 - Unwavering Summoner, Yuna
2677 - Hollow Ichigo Kurosaki
2929 - Moonlit Feline Goddess Armor, Ace
2013 - Awoken Anubis
2762 - Purple Plum Virtue, Xin Hua
2760 - Yellow Chrysanthemum Virtue, Xiu Min
2389 - Awoken Sakuya
2662 - Awoken Pandora

Why does it always seem like AppMedia’s list is always in a need of an overhaul?


Jump to: Game8 | Game8 Co-op | GameWith | GameWith Farming | AppMedia | Pad-Plus


Pad-Plus

*This list isn’t factored into the aggregate result.
Original source
Changes from last time: Gremory 15➞1, Liu Bei 1➞8, Ronove added to 2, Bastet Ace 2➞7, Sarasvati added to 3, Miru 3➞5, Sherias Roots 8➞4, Kaede 4➞6, AD Lucifer 5➞10, Oda Nobunaga 6➞14, Sumire 7➞11, Cao Cao added to 9, Anubis 10➞15, Ra Dragon removed from 11, Xiang Mei removed from 12, Izanagi removed from 13, Vritra removed from 14
1
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
2
2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
3
3069 - 聖徳の麗女神・Sarasvati
4
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
5
2969 - 星刻の時龍契士・Miru
6
2972 - 碧地の風龍喚士・Kaede
7
2929 - Moonlit Feline Goddess Armor, Ace
8
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
9
2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
10
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
11
2971 - 藍海の水龍喚士・Sumire
12
2968 - 無幻の時龍契士・Miru
13
2146 - Fall Wind Jasper Dragon Caller, Kaede
14
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
15
2013 - Awoken Anubis

For details on the aggregation method or each Japanese site used, refer to this page (link someday).

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14 thoughts on “JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 22

  1. Ronove is probably going to catch a lot of people by surprise, I’m honestly shocked there aren’t more videos of him tearing up arenas and rushes

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    • I think many already thought that he sounded really fun to play, it’ll be a huge bonus if he’s also one of the best leaders as well.

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  2. You’ve probably already seen this, but reddit has a pretty cool gif of kenshin reaching the absolute damage cap of 2,147,483,647 with 6 crosses. Probably won’t be practical for descends, but I can’t wait for him to get to NA just to activate the 2,125,764x multiplier

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    • Yeah, I find it amusing that the damage cap is now “easily” reachable in this game. I’m just waiting for people to keep trying that set up and eventually get 2+ more crosses via skyfall just to see the ridiculous multiplier value.

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  3. What are the chances Kenshin will be released in NA? I hope it doesn’t share the same fate as DBZ (where quite frankly, will never be released in NA due to licensing complications)

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    • Your guess is as good as mine. Wish I could be more informative, but anything I say would just be speculation and wishful thinking. I certainly hope we get it because it looks to be one of collabs closest to FF as far as value.

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  4. Why has Raoh fallen off the ranking charts when Awoken Astaroth is still there? They have the same leader skill. Does she have a better sub pool?

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  5. After watching Paprika’s demonstration of Kenshin, 2916x ATK is kinda ridiculous. There’s ways for dungeons to counter it (combo thresholds, damage absorbs, resolve thresholds, move time debuffs, etc.), but I think most pure spike leaders without HP/RCV modifiers have been left in the dust.

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  6. In terms of MP Dragons like Yomi Dragon and Ra Dragon, do their respective Radar Dragons fall in the same ranking as they do?

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