PADherder (link defunct since I accidentally overwrote the data with my main account and have no way of restoring it, sigh.)
I inherited this account from one of my IRL friends. His interest in the game seemed to be waning, so he’s letting me take care of his account while he takes a break of indeterminate duration. The goal is to set him up as well as possible for whenever he wants the account back or, in the worst case, have an alt account that can permanently co-op with my main.
A Misallocation of Resources
To be frank, the account is a mess. For a non-IAP account, far too many stones were spent on box space (2100+) and the ones that weren’t were used on a few too many special and collab REMs. What’s left is a box with far too little diversity for an account that’s about 500 days played.
The origin of the problem was that he got extremely lucky during his first PCGF, netting him fairly good Bastet and Shiva teams in a minimal amount of rolls (for reference, this was when Bastet was arguably the best lead in the game). I guess when you have a few functional teams, there’s little motivation to continue spending stones wisely, but that obviously didn’t work out in the long term. Now that those leaders are outdated — Bastet Ace when? — the box is left with no leader that would be considered elite. Even worse still, it’s short on MP (not that there’s an MP team in this box, but still). There’s also very little invested in farming teams; the account doesn’t even have a single Goemon.
Co-op Is the Only Solution
Since there’s little salvation within the box, we have to look outside. As IAP nor MP are options, only farmable solutions are available. Sadly, in today’s game the only real options are Miru and the various co-op teams (MHera, MZeus, etc). Seeing as the only solid Miru sub in this box is DQXQ, the only path forward is though co-op.
Luckily, this box has a few key cards will help pave the way for a decent rate of advancement; more than I expected than when I first gave the box a look over. Here are the major ones:
Cards aside, perhaps the greatest advantage this account has and the best reason to go co-op is that my main can carry it through just about every dungeon. I’ll definitely be taking advantage of this as much as possible.
Zeus-Dios: The Savior
The advent of Dios’s ultimate gives even the crappiest of boxes newfound hope. Even if you don’t have Liu Bei, there are plenty of MZeus-based Dios teams that are competent as well. Setting up this account with a good co-op team boils down to completing these steps:
- Getting an MZeus
- Evoing Liu Bei
- Farming Dios skill ups
- Farming +eggs for those Dioses
(1) is already covered by this box having access to Sephiroth (and in the worst case, I can get someone to carry me with the Ra-based dacho carry team). (2) is basically done outside a few Dub-Mythits. For (3), there are a few options, but farming Dios’s own dungeon is probably the easiest and most efficient. There’s no great solution in this box for (4), but I have a few ideas.
Farming Zeus-Dios Skill Ups
Currently on NA, Dios is in the Descended Challenge meaning I have a prime opportunity to farm skill ups while also being able to grab a small amount of +eggs through 10x. The other options — Green Bowl and Beorc — are plausible, but Dios is the best if only for the small possibility of Griffin skill ups. Why Griffin? Well, believe it or not, it’s one of the better skill inheritance bases for a Dios-based team. On top of being farmable, the short cooldown means you can inherit an orb change for early use in a dungeon, then have the orb enhance ready later in the dungeon for the extra burst. The wood sub-element is also necessary when farming light absorb bosses like MHera.
The one catch is that this version is 7×6, meaning everything has slightly more HP. The four-swipe team is really the only option for this box, but it needs to be slightly adjusted to compensate. Thankfully, the only real change is that you need an additional nuke after Goemon’s to clear Griffin, the adjustments made easier since my main team can supply the necessary skill boosts.
Also by good fortune, this account has enough materials to make two uevo Goemons. Which will certainly be put to good use for a long time.
This box has a few button options, but outside Ra and maybe Zeromus, none of them are that appealing. This means there are really only two options for +egg farming: 1) relying on my main account to do the bulk of the work while supplying a Goemon or two for good measure and 2) Mechdragons.
I’m almost certainly going to be carrying this box through dungeons like Kanetsugu, but outside a well timed Challenge, the good descendeds aren’t exactly on a reliable schedule anymore. This means the other option is farming Mechdragons on 20x which should happen every three days even outside of events. Why Mechdragons? Because of this completely farmable, poverty button team:
There’s also the possibility of running a poverty team for Thieve’s Den, which I cover in this post. Luckily, this account should have enough poverty nukes to run the MZeus team with my main.
Liu Bei Team Options
While MZeus is a nice option, I believe we’re going to get the most use out of Liu Bei. There’s already a bevy of fairly optimized Liu Bei-Dios teams for just about every dungeon worth farming. The catch is we don’t have many utility options, meaning some of the super-optimal farming teams aren’t available to us. However, in most cases, this side can just supply three or four Dioses and leave the utility up to my main account.
Rather than go over possible team configurations, here are a few videos that demonstrate teams we can use to farm various dungeons:
Farming MP could be something we want to do in the future and Scarlet is one of the best dungeons to do so. This would allow us to pick up a solo leader like Xiu Min (the only MP card we’re close to a team for) or something like Christmas Sonia since we’re lacking a wood mass orb changer. If Awoken Cao Cao becomes a thing, having a max skill Scarlet or two might be nice as well.
Linthia is probably our best best for Dub-Mythlits; might as well pick up some MP in the process.
Finally, Zaerog∞ is pretty good for just about everything and only requires our side to have four Dioses.
Of course, if Liu Bei-Dios can do these types of dungeons, there should be a way to beat things like Challenge Dungeons and other descendeds that need farming. This team is my #1 priority.
MZeus Team Options
This box has few good MZeus options outside of maybe Baal. Even if we get creative, we’re really going to have to temper our expectations on what we can clear and farm. I do think a reasonable MHera team can be cobbled together, but it won’t be the most reliable. This box just lacks far too many quality cards to take on the most difficult content, but in the end, we aren’t looking to farm super-endgame content. Just as long as farming dungeons for skill ups gets easier, that’s a win in my book.
A Dios-based team is probably the most accessible MZeus lineup, especially for a box like this that has few good sub options. The idea is to run two or three Dioses, fill out the rest of the team with orb changers, then rely on our partner to supply any utility needed for the dungeon. Sadly, this box is really lacking for good mass orb changers. We have options, but none of them can replace a full-board option Avalon Drake or GSonia.
We’re very far from a competent light-based team, but there are some pieces that are worth developing in hopes of getting better options in the future. This box’s biggest weakness is diversity, so while it may not look like much now, it’ll pay off in the future.
Utility and Roleplayers
These are cards in the box that have utility use or might see niche use in the future, almost exclusively as assist skills.
Janky, Farmable Substitutes
Sometimes you just need the active skill.
Most Wanted Cards
These are the overarching plans I have for the near future:
- Make 2x Goemons
- Make 4x Tengus
- Obtain and eventually evo MZeus
- Skill 3x Zeus-Dios
- Farm +eggs
- Wood evos: Bartz, Griffin, Fafnir
- Light evos: Venus, DQXQ, Thouzer
With the Christmas REM coming back, buying a Christmas Sonia is very tempting. We’re very short on MP, but over the course of a week we should be able to farm enough through Zaerog and Scarlet.
There’s enough to do with my friend’s account that makes it interesting to me. I can see myself dedicating a decent amount of time raising this as a co-op account, especially since it means that I’ll either have another partner to co-op with or an alt to co-op with myself. I’m interested to see how Liu Bei turns out and I’m also excited to see what kind of rolls the REM gives us.