JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 26

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: Astaroth 3➞❀, Cao Cao added to ❀, Shiva Dragon removed from ❀, Parvati removed from ❀, GKali removed from ❀, Sakuya removed from ❀
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
1
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
2
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
3
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
3019 - 流浪人, Himura Kenshin
1955 - Awoken Lakshmi
3069 - 聖徳の麗女神・Sarasvati
2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
2920 - Godlike Chivalrous Thief, Robin Hood
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2929 - Moonlit Feline Goddess Armor, Ace
2904 - Awoken Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
2662 - Awoken Pandora
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
3033 - 新撰組三番隊組長, Saito Hajime
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera

Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.


We’re missing the Summer REM cards, but Myr was likely the only card to make the lists, anyways. Lakshmi is interesting, but considering where Izanagi landed this week I’m not sure she’s good enough to make it.

JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card Notes
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
Change: 3➞❀

With so many new powerful leads being released, it should come as no surprise that the pre-cross old guard are slowly falling off the lists. It’s unfortunate that the days of pantheon gods being at the top of the lists has long since passed.

2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
Change: Added to ❀

Just when you thought he was dead, AppMedia adds him to their S-tier, good enough for him to show up on the aggregate list. As a side note, the revelation of Summer Goemon having two skill boosts should provide a small increase in his farming capabilities.

2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
Change: Removed from ❀

I almost never use Shiva Dragon anymore, but he’s still one of my most used leads of all time and probably the best MP purchase I ever made. He’d need huge buffs to regain relevancy in the age of co-op. Which begs the question: does GungHo have any plans to ever buff the MP Dragons?

New Card Holding Tank

I’ve already gone over many of these leads in my last Quick Thoughts post. Much of what was said there is still relevant.

New cards will be held here temporarily in an attempt to isolate the aggregate list from knee-jerk ratings.
Card Notes
2991 - 狂面の魔公爵・Dantalion
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), Game8 Co-op (A), GameWith (A), AppMedia (S), PadPlus (5)

From a high level, Dantalion is much like Kenshin; the main difference being that his active skill makes him system-ready, making him more consistent to play should you have that team. As far as glass cannons go, I prefer You Yu, but I’m not totally opposed to Dantalion’s current placement, but I do think he’ll fall off relatively soon. One thing of note is that at level 1, he has the highest RCV in the game (1285).

2997 - 宝冠の聖魔王・Paimon
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), GameWith (A), AppMedia (S+), PadPlus (4)

Paimon looks amazing on paper, but I haven’t been all that impressed with the few videos that have come out so far. Then again, I haven’t seen anyone release a full 6x Paimon video or even a 4x one, either. I do think he/she’s better than Dantalion, though (IRL lore aside, it does look like a dude upon further inspection).

2984 - Awoken Izanagi
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), AppMedia (S-)

Izanagi is the cross leader to come from a standard pantheon. As expected, he’s basically a bad Myr. The RCV is intriguing, but for the most part Myr is stronger due to the increased movement time and bind immunity.


Jump to: Game8 | Game8 Co-op | GameWith | GameWith Farming | AppMedia | Pad-Plus


Game8

Original source
Changes from last time: Xiang Mei S➞AA, Sumire A➞AA, Ra Dragon A➞AA, Dantalion added to A, Izanagi added to A
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SS
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
S
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
3090 - Chaotic Black Dragonbound Armor, Ana
AA
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
A
2991 - 狂面の魔公爵・Dantalion
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2997 - 宝冠の聖魔王・Paimon
2984 - Awoken Izanagi
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
1955 - Awoken Lakshmi
3069 - 聖徳の麗女神・Sarasvati
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2929 - Moonlit Feline Goddess Armor, Ace
2904 - Awoken Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
2389 - Awoken Sakuya
2325 - Awoken Yomi
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2662 - Awoken Pandora
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon

Game8 Changes of Note

Card Notes
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
Change: S➞AA

How the mighty have fallen. It’s very difficult for non-cross leads to keep up these days; considering that her leader skill requires more hearts to do something inferior to the heart-crossers, it’s no surprise that Xiang Mei would eventually fall.

2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
Change: A➞AA

I’m generally not a fan of the introduction of new tiers, but at the very least, the increased granularity enables them to give Sumire the respect that she deserves; she’s not as good as Myr, but is better than everything in the A-tier.

2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
Change: A➞AA

Ra Dragon also benefits from the new tier and is appropriately placed.


Jump to: Game8 | Game8 Co-op | GameWith | GameWith Farming | AppMedia | Pad-Plus


Game8 Co-op

*This list isn’t factored into the aggregate result.
Original source
Changes from last time: Typhon Ana S➞A
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SS
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
S
2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
A
3019 - 流浪人, Himura Kenshin
2991 - 狂面の魔公爵・Dantalion
2006 - Avowed Thief, Ishikawa Goemon
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
3074 - Awoken Machine Athena
2920 - Godlike Chivalrous Thief, Robin Hood
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
3090 - Chaotic Black Dragonbound Armor, Ana

Jump to: Game8 | Game8 Co-op | GameWith | GameWith Farming | AppMedia | Pad-Plus


GameWith

Original source
Changes from last time: Paimon added to A, Dantalion added to A, Typhon Ana added to A
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SSS
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
SS
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
S
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera
A
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
2997 - 宝冠の聖魔王・Paimon
2991 - 狂面の魔公爵・Dantalion
3090 - Chaotic Black Dragonbound Armor, Ana
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
B
3069 - 聖徳の麗女神・Sarasvati
2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
2920 - Godlike Chivalrous Thief, Robin Hood
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
2662 - Awoken Pandora

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GameWith Farming

*This list isn’t factored into the aggregate result.
Original source
Changes from last time: None
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
S
2006 - Avowed Thief, Ishikawa Goemon
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera
A
2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
2179 - God of the Destroying Lance, Odin
2657 - Heroic God-Emperor, Yamato Takeru
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon

Jump to: Game8 | Game8 Co-op | GameWith | GameWith Farming | AppMedia | Pad-Plus


AppMedia

Original source
Changes from last time: Paimon added to S+, Saito S+➞S, Cao Cao added to S, Dantalion added to S, Lakshmi S➞S-, Astaroth S➞S-, GKali S➞S-, Parvati S➞S-, Izanagi added to S-, Typhon Ana added to S-, Yuna removed from S-, Ichigo removed from S-, Shiva Dragon removed from S-, Neptune Dragon removed from S-, Anubis removed from S-, Sakuya removed from S-, Pandora removed from S-
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SS
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
S+
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
2997 - 宝冠の聖魔王・Paimon
2920 - Godlike Chivalrous Thief, Robin Hood
2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
3019 - 流浪人, Himura Kenshin
S
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2929 - Moonlit Feline Goddess Armor, Ace
2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
2991 - 狂面の魔公爵・Dantalion
3033 - 新撰組三番隊組長, Saito Hajime
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
S-
2984 - Awoken Izanagi
1955 - Awoken Lakshmi
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2814 - Library Room's Manager God, Kali
1956 - Awoken Parvati
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
2904 - Awoken Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
3069 - 聖徳の麗女神・Sarasvati
2762 - Purple Plum Virtue, Xin Hua
3090 - Chaotic Black Dragonbound Armor, Ana

AppMedia cleared out space for all of the new cross leads. Sadly, there’s really not much interesting to say about them as they were removed from the other lists long ago.


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Pad-Plus

*This list isn’t factored into the aggregate result.
Original source
Changes from last time: Ronove 2➞1, Kenshin 1➞9, Typhon Ana added to 2, Gremory 10➞3, Saito 3➞14, Paimon added to 4, Miru 4➞6, Dantalion added to 5, Kaede 5➞8, Tamazou removed from 6, You Yu added to 7, Sumire 7➞11, Cao Cao removed from 8, Liu Bei 9➞12, Sherias Roots 11➞10, Bastet Ace 12➞15, Sitri added to 13, Sarasvati removed from 13, AD Lucifer removed from 14, GOdin removed from 15
1
2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
2
3090 - Chaotic Black Dragonbound Armor, Ana
3
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
4
2997 - 宝冠の聖魔王・Paimon
5
2991 - 狂面の魔公爵・Dantalion
6
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
7
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
8
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
9
3019 - 流浪人, Himura Kenshin
10
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
11
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
12
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
13
2993 - 愛楽の魔君主, Sitri
14
3033 - 新撰組三番隊組長, Saito Hajime
15
2929 - Moonlit Feline Goddess Armor, Ace

For details on the aggregation method or each Japanese site used, refer to this page (link someday).

23 thoughts on “JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 26

  1. *sigh* it sucks to see Orchid fall out of favor, especially to a farmable, but I really can’t defend it, heart cross is just so OP. Maybe years down the road, Orchid’ll get a LS buff, and be relevant again… 😛

    (JK. I mean, she still can clear EVERYTHING in the game with relative ease. Take Arena 3. 99% of teams would call it 10/10 in difficulty. Orchid might call it a 7/10 in difficulty. Cross heart leads call it a 5/10 or less. So while Orchid is still a viable choice, it’s hard to justify her 300K MP cost anymore now that a farmable has an easier time in harder content :O )

    Funny thing is, Lakshmi’s STILL on the 2 of the 3 tier lists… over a year past her release date. Like, that’s INSANE. No other cards have lasted that long, with the exception of RaDra and maybe Shivagon, depending on whether we take him seriously for anything outside of farming Zeus Dios any more.

    Remember when everyone was complaining how OP Shivagon was? An unconditional 25x! That’s insane! And now Anima is an unconditional 56x. ANIMA. Powercreep is real my friends.

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  2. Heart-cross OP lol…

    I’m personally kind of salty about how the Ronove/Gremory/etc. GFE series wasn’t just like an Archdemons 2.0 pantheon or something. Hey since we’re going to try to make them super broken let’s make them all GFEs so they’re super rare! Or, rather, they’re GFEs BECAUSE they’re so powerful and making them a pantheon would have been too much. Still think an Archdemons 2.0 would be cool.

    But I’m more sad about the passing of the pantheon gods. I guess it’s not surprising now that it happened, but it’s not like I personally ever expected it to come, so it still sprang out of the left field to me. And it makes me sad. Whenever they finish Indian 2’s bankai uevos and JP2’s awoken uevos, I hope they aren’t horribly weak. Bankai Sarasvati is a glimmer of hope for Indian 2 but Awoken Izanagi is a bad sign.

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  3. Where is Blue Myr? Or Why isnt she in the holding tank?
    Shes our first 500K MP card, she has gotta be significant right?

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    • Literally the first sentence after the disclaimer: “We’re missing the Summer REM cards, but Myr was likely the only card to make the lists, anyways.”

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  4. Hi Setsu!
    After looking at those lists, a question came to mind:

    what makes AA Luci better as a leader than ADQXQ?

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    • Major points:
      – Better subs
      – Tankier
      – God killer makes up the damage deficit

      I can go into more detail if you have more specific questions.

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  5. I have always wondered, why Sherias Root is considered a tier higher than Ra dragon, consider that Ra dragon can not be bind but can.

    Other than the active, I don’t know why he is rated so much higher.

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    • Much, much better sub pool. Ragnarok Dragon > DKali. Also, much better active. Bind immunity is important, but Roots’ higher potential makes him more attractive. Personally, I don’t think there’s any huge difference.

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  6. I understand that Kaede is almost certainly the strongest lead out right now, but I’m curious about something — does she have a good team for Mech Zeus? Seems like 8 combo shield would require a very skilled (or lucky) player, given how unwieldy heart crosses can be. Maybe some shenanigans with SI to make a guaranteed 8 combo board, but I don’t know how easy that would be. The other option is to try stalling against M zeus, but with locked skyfalls and MZeus’s bind attacks, that doesn’t seem like an appealing option.

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  7. Hi Setsu,

    This is not related to this particular topic but you indicated that you prefer any team questions be posted on your blog.

    I’m a non-iap, casual player thinking about trying the Arena challenges. To prepare I need to start farming for plus eggs. I was wondering if you can recommend what team I should use so that I know where to invest my plus eggs. A team that could take on both Arena 1 and 2 would be ideal. (https://www.padherder.com/user/Poopboy/monsters/#31,0,31,8191,4294967295_63,0,,0,0,0,eq,0,0,0,0,;default,0)

    Thanks!

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    • Yes, I also state that questions like these are now reserved for the biweekly Godfest Help posts. I just don’t have enough time to look through everyone’s boxes and give advice, so I like to isolate them all over a couple of days. Please re-ask your question then.

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    • From a quick glance, you could buy a Xiang Mei and be pretty set, since you have 2x Uriel and Gadius. That’s probably your “best” option. If you don’t want to farm up the MP/sell a bunch of cards, you can make great Awoken Lucifer and Blonia teams, and maybe a Saria team (I don’t know too much about her).
      The only downside to plussing Xiang Mei subs is that they don’t see much use outside of her specific team, whereas the dark or water options can go on tons of different teams.

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  8. So this is totally irrelevant but Spica’s sub ult is ADORBS.

    Also Akechi’s lead ult is God/Balanced I wonder how this will affect Xin Hua and Ana Typhon…

    And Ishida’s ult art is the best. Why can’t I have any sengokus. Only have Mori </3

    PAD Island is coming soon and I so desperately want those 7* and 8* cards but rolling for them as a nonIAPer is just suicide. *sighs*

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    • imo it’s impossible to surpass Spica’s evo art, but her uevo art is definitely amazing. I’m not disappointed.

      Yeah, it should be interesting to see how Akechi affects things, if at all considering it’s his leader form.

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