JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 35

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: Dantalion 3➞❀, You Yu 3➞❀, Acala removed from ❀, Sephiroth removed from ❀, Oda Nobunaga removed from ❀
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
1
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
2995 - Bursting Great Earl of Hell, Ronove
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
2
3125 - 奇跡の逆転ファイター・Kinnikuman
3112 - Sniper at Rest, Myr
2999 - Hell Eye's Evil Duchess, Gremory
2827 - Armored Batman
3
3068 - 灼天の勇将神, Krishna
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
2984 - Awoken Izanagi
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2997 - Crowned Sacred King of Hell, Paimon
3090 - Chaotic Black Dragonbound Armor, Ana
2991 - Confusing Face Great Duke of Hell, Dantalion
3069 - Heavenly Virtuous Goddess, Sarasvati
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2749 - Awoken Artemis
2945 - Steel Wand Mech Dragon God, Balboa
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
3129 - 悪魔超人最後の刺客・Akuma Shogun

Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.


Pretty busy this week, so no comments. Luckily, not too much changed.

As removing them was confusing in the past, I’ll keep all the holding tank cards around even though I’m not commenting on them.

New Card Holding Tank

New cards will be held here temporarily in an attempt to isolate the aggregate list from knee-jerk ratings.
Card Notes
3241 - Reincarnated Shiva
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), AppMedia (S-)
3242 - Reincarnated Lakshmi
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), AppMedia (S)
3243 - Reincarnated Parvati
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), GameWith (B), AppMedia (S)
3235 - 魔究の狂幻魔, Ilm
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), GameWith (B), AppMedia (S+)
3234 - 夜陰の日龍喚士, Kanna
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A)

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Game8

Original source
Changes from last time: None
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SS
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
2995 - Bursting Great Earl of Hell, Ronove
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
S
3125 - 奇跡の逆転ファイター・Kinnikuman
3112 - Sniper at Rest, Myr
2827 - Armored Batman
2999 - Hell Eye's Evil Duchess, Gremory
3090 - Chaotic Black Dragonbound Armor, Ana
AA
3068 - 灼天の勇将神, Krishna
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
2984 - Awoken Izanagi
2997 - Crowned Sacred King of Hell, Paimon
A
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2991 - Confusing Face Great Duke of Hell, Dantalion
3241 - Reincarnated Shiva
3069 - Heavenly Virtuous Goddess, Sarasvati
3242 - Reincarnated Lakshmi
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
3070 - 均衡の創界神, Vishnu
3202 - 慈悲之神・Acala
3243 - Reincarnated Parvati
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
3235 - 魔究の狂幻魔, Ilm
3234 - 夜陰の日龍喚士, Kanna
3129 - 悪魔超人最後の刺客・Akuma Shogun
2985 - Awoken Okuninushi

Jump to: Game8 | Game8 Co-op | GameWith | GameWith Farming | AppMedia | Pad-Plus


Game8 Co-op

*This list isn’t factored into the aggregate result.
Original source
Changes from last time: None
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SS
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
S
2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
3074 - Awoken Machine Athena
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera
3071 - 財成の学問神, Ganesha
A
2939 - Treasure Blade Dragon, Drahklist
3083 - Disaster Phantom Dragon, Anima
2006 - Avowed Thief, Ishikawa Goemon
3129 - 悪魔超人最後の刺客・Akuma Shogun

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GameWith

Original source
Changes from last time: You Yu A➞B, Parvati added to B, Ilm added to B, Acala removed from B, AD Lucifer removed from B, Sephiroth removed from B, Oda Nobunaga removed from B
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SSS
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
SS
3112 - Sniper at Rest, Myr
2995 - Bursting Great Earl of Hell, Ronove
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
2827 - Armored Batman
S
3125 - 奇跡の逆転ファイター・Kinnikuman
2984 - Awoken Izanagi
2999 - Hell Eye's Evil Duchess, Gremory
3090 - Chaotic Black Dragonbound Armor, Ana
A
3068 - 灼天の勇将神, Krishna
2991 - Confusing Face Great Duke of Hell, Dantalion
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
2997 - Crowned Sacred King of Hell, Paimon
3129 - 悪魔超人最後の刺客・Akuma Shogun
B
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2749 - Awoken Artemis
2945 - Steel Wand Mech Dragon God, Balboa
3243 - Reincarnated Parvati
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
3235 - 魔究の狂幻魔, Ilm

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GameWith Farming

*This list isn’t factored into the aggregate result.
Original source
Changes from last time: None
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
S
2006 - Avowed Thief, Ishikawa Goemon
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera
A
2939 - Treasure Blade Dragon, Drahklist
2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
2179 - God of the Destroying Lance, Odin
2657 - Heroic God-Emperor, Yamato Takeru
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
3166 - 燃える革命, Dogiragon
3074 - Awoken Machine Athena

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AppMedia

Original source
Changes from last time: Ilm added to S+, Oda Nobunaga S+➞S, Balboa added to S, Parvati added to S, Lakshmi added to S, Ra Dragon removed from S, Cao Cao S➞S-, Bastet Ace removed from S, You Yu S➞S-, Robin Hood removed from S, Dantalion S➞S-, Izanagi X added to S-, Shiva added to S-, Sephiroth removed from S-, Summer Lakshmi removed from S-, Liu Bei removed from S-, Xin Hua removed from S-, Rukia removed from S-
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SSS
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
3112 - Sniper at Rest, Myr
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
SS
3125 - 奇跡の逆転ファイター・Kinnikuman
2995 - Bursting Great Earl of Hell, Ronove
2827 - Armored Batman
S+
2999 - Hell Eye's Evil Duchess, Gremory
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
3235 - 魔究の狂幻魔, Ilm
2997 - Crowned Sacred King of Hell, Paimon
S
2749 - Awoken Artemis
2945 - Steel Wand Mech Dragon God, Balboa
3090 - Chaotic Black Dragonbound Armor, Ana
2984 - Awoken Izanagi
3068 - 灼天の勇将神, Krishna
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
3243 - Reincarnated Parvati
3242 - Reincarnated Lakshmi
3069 - Heavenly Virtuous Goddess, Sarasvati
S-
3173 - 冥道の根源神・Izanagi X
2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
3129 - 悪魔超人最後の刺客・Akuma Shogun
3218 - 最強裝備・Flintlock
3241 - Reincarnated Shiva
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2991 - Confusing Face Great Duke of Hell, Dantalion

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Pad-Plus

*This list isn’t factored into the aggregate result.
Original source
Changes from last time: Kinnikuman added to 1, Flintlock 1➞3, Akuma Shogun 10➞2, Kushinadahime 2➞10, Acala 3➞12, Ronove 5➞4, Krishna 4➞13, Khepri 15➞5, U&Y 12➞7, Vishnu removed from 7, Summer Myr added to 8, Dogiragon Sword removed from 8, Ganesha removed from 13, Sumire added to 15
1
3125 - 奇跡の逆転ファイター・Kinnikuman
2
3129 - 悪魔超人最後の刺客・Akuma Shogun
3
3218 - 最強裝備・Flintlock
4
2995 - Bursting Great Earl of Hell, Ronove
5
3159 - 暁天の蒼空神, Khepri
6
2985 - Awoken Okuninushi
7
2982 - Awoken Umisachi&Yamasachi
8
3112 - Sniper at Rest, Myr
9
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
10
2983 - Awoken Kushinadahime
11
2999 - Hell Eye's Evil Duchess, Gremory
12
3202 - 慈悲之神・Acala
13
3068 - 灼天の勇将神, Krishna
14
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
15
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire

I’m not entirely sure what is up with this list, but some weeks it’s missing and this week is in an entirely new format. The list goes all the way up to 30 cards now. Until things stabilize, I’m just going to limit it to the first 15 and figure out what to do with this later.


For details on the aggregation method or each Japanese site used, refer to this page (link someday).

14 thoughts on “JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 35

  1. Is it correct that GameWith lacks Lakshmi completely? If Parvati is on the list, than Lakshmi should too, since she’s the better lead of the two…

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    • Yeah, it’s correct. I link to their page if you want to check it out yourself. They even consider Shiva (and reject him), but not Lakshmi. I thought it was weird, too, and it was the one thing I wanted to comment on but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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        • The most frustrating thing about the JP tier lists is their lack of consistency (much better lately than just a year ago, but still). So when a seemingly strange change is made, it’s difficult to tell if they did it on purpose or just fucked up. Is there a good reason Lakshmi got left off? It’s hard to believe, but maybe there was, we’ll just never know either way and due to past transgressions, we can’t just take their opinion in good faith.

          But, whatever. It’s a tier list. It’s simply a tool, not an end-all be-all. In a strange, twisted way, their omission might do some good as it’ll make some people think about things they wouldn’t have before.

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  2. So it seems no one in JP really cares about Revo Minerva? I’m extremely hyped about her, given that paired with a Charite and a fully fire latent’d team I can have a x36 row leader with an 85% shield whenever I want. The vids of her just sweeping through Arena paired with Ilm get me even more excited. The idea of having heart cross level defenses without actually needing hearts or crosses sounds great to me.

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    • She’s good in certain situations, but isn’t an all-around endgame leader which is what the tier lists are based on. Basically all the leaders on the tier lists can do what she does without having to rely on good elemental matchups and with better damage. Relying on Charite is a pretty bad plan since she really doesn’t offer anything besides the ability to stall and is a liability everywhere else. Minerva’s pair with Ilm is reflected in Ilm’s ranking.

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  3. After the Xiu Min buff, from a 100x row lead to 300x, do you think she will be considered as a good lead, or is she still trash?

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    • I don’t think he was ever trash, even before the buff, but high multiplier leaders are a dime a dozen nowadays so it’s hard to get excited.

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  4. Unrelated, but for the optimal boards, how are the power and combo boards different from the regular combo/row boards? Thanks for all the work you’ve put in!

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  5. Why does DQXQ not appear in any of these lists? Is she just not played prominently in Japan or is there a different reason why she is not tier-worthy?

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    • They had maybe a couple week window before they were powercreeped out of existence. I mean, just look at the other cards on the lists and this should be obvious.

      Also, in general, a flexible leader skill with low potential will lose out to a narrow leader skill with higher potential. This is because tier lists don’t really take player skill (assumes everyone is a wizard) or sub availability (assumes everyone has access to all the cards they want) into consideration in an attempt to objectively quantify ability.

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        • No problem. I should have added that they’re still great leads, just not busted. Which is sadly what you need to be to sniff the tier lists these days (used to be that busted cards were generally only in the top tier).

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