JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 43

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: Gremory 2➞3, Sherias Roots 3➞❀, Meridionalis added to ❀, Shiva removed from ❀, Lakshmi removed from ❀, Halloween Xiang Mei removed from ❀
Legend: ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
1
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
2995 - Bursting Great Earl of Hell, Ronove
3265 - 全能神・Ra Dragon
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
2
3125 - 奇跡の逆転ファイター・Kinnikuman
3112 - Sniper at Rest, Myr
3
3068 - Divine General of the Radiant Heaven, Krishna
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
3202 - Goddess of Great Compassion, Acala
3235 - 魔究の狂幻魔, Ilm
2984 - Awoken Izanagi
2997 - Crowned Sacred King of Hell, Paimon
3090 - Chaotic Black Dragonbound Armor, Ana
2999 - Hell Eye's Evil Duchess, Gremory
2827 - Armored Batman
3238 - Reincarnated Minerva
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
3276 - 討弓の鋼星神, Meridionalis
3239 - Reincarnated Neptune
3243 - Reincarnated Parvati
3273 - Reincarnated Ra
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
3223 - Old Castle Freeloader, Sonia Gran
3129 - 悪魔超人最後の刺客・Akuma Shogun

Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.


There was a fair amount of impactful new cards this week, but I’m going to continue to keep comments to a minimum since I still have some catching up to do. Hopefully things go back to normal next week when GameWith will also have updated their list to reflect the new cards.

New Card Holding Tank

New cards will be held here temporarily in an attempt to isolate the aggregate list from knee-jerk ratings.
Card Notes
3266 - 暗黒神・Yomi Dragon
Ranked Sites: Game8 (AA)

Despite not getting a Ra Dragon-level uuevo, Yomi Dragon is still quite good.

3262 - 鍛煉神・Shiva Dragon
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), Game8 Co-op (A)
3384 - Reincarnated Bastet
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A)
3385 - Reincarnated Anubis
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A)
3353 - 最後の月牙天衝・Kurosaki Ichigo
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A)
3263 - 聖舶神・Neptune Dragon
Ranked Sites: Game8 Co-op (A)
3305 - The Chosen King, Noctis
Ranked Sites: Game8 (AA), GameWith (A), AppMedia (S)

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Game8

Original source
Changes from last time: Gremory S➞AA, Yomi Dragon added to AA, Noctis added to AA, Izanagi AA➞A, Paimon AA➞A, Shiva Dragon added to A, Meridionalis added to A, Bastet added to A, Anubis added to A, Ichigo added to A, Shiva removed from A, Lakshmi removed from A, Vishnu removed from A, Ra removed from A, Sherias Roots removed from A, Halloween Xiang Mei removed from A, Okuninushi removed from A
SS
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
2995 - Bursting Great Earl of Hell, Ronove
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
3265 - 全能神・Ra Dragon
S
3125 - 奇跡の逆転ファイター・Kinnikuman
3112 - Sniper at Rest, Myr
3090 - Chaotic Black Dragonbound Armor, Ana
AA
3068 - Divine General of the Radiant Heaven, Krishna
3202 - Goddess of Great Compassion, Acala
3235 - 魔究の狂幻魔, Ilm
3266 - 暗黒神・Yomi Dragon
2999 - Hell Eye's Evil Duchess, Gremory
2827 - Armored Batman
3305 - The Chosen King, Noctis
A
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
3238 - Reincarnated Minerva
3262 - 鍛煉神・Shiva Dragon
3239 - Reincarnated Neptune
3276 - 討弓の鋼星神, Meridionalis
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
3384 - Reincarnated Bastet
2983 - Awoken Kushinadahime
3243 - Reincarnated Parvati
3223 - Old Castle Freeloader, Sonia Gran
2984 - Awoken Izanagi
2997 - Crowned Sacred King of Hell, Paimon
3385 - Reincarnated Anubis
3129 - 悪魔超人最後の刺客・Akuma Shogun
3353 - 最後の月牙天衝・Kurosaki Ichigo

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Game8 Co-op

*This list isn’t factored into the aggregate result.
Original source
Changes from last time: Meridionalis S➞SS, Machine Zeus SS➞S, Shiva Dragon added to A, Neptune Dragon added to A, Cloud added to A, Anima removed from A
SS
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
3276 - 討弓の鋼星神, Meridionalis
S
2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
3074 - Awoken Machine Athena
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
3071 - Scholarly God of Wealth Building, Ganesha
A
2939 - Treasure Blade Dragon, Drahklist
3262 - 鍛煉神・Shiva Dragon
2006 - Avowed Thief, Ishikawa Goemon
3263 - 聖舶神・Neptune Dragon
2764 - Cloud & Fenrir
3129 - 悪魔超人最後の刺客・Akuma Shogun

Game8 Co-op Changes of Note

Card Notes
3276 - 討弓の鋼星神, Meridionalis
Change: S➞SS

It’s about time this change was made.


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GameWith

Original source
Changes from last time: None
SSS
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
2995 - Bursting Great Earl of Hell, Ronove
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
3265 - 全能神・Ra Dragon
SS
3125 - 奇跡の逆転ファイター・Kinnikuman
3112 - Sniper at Rest, Myr
S
3068 - Divine General of the Radiant Heaven, Krishna
2984 - Awoken Izanagi
2999 - Hell Eye's Evil Duchess, Gremory
2827 - Armored Batman
A
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
3202 - Goddess of Great Compassion, Acala
2997 - Crowned Sacred King of Hell, Paimon
3129 - 悪魔超人最後の刺客・Akuma Shogun
3090 - Chaotic Black Dragonbound Armor, Ana
3305 - The Chosen King, Noctis
B
3238 - Reincarnated Minerva
3239 - Reincarnated Neptune
3243 - Reincarnated Parvati
3273 - Reincarnated Ra
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
3235 - 魔究の狂幻魔, Ilm
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth

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GameWith Farming

*This list isn’t factored into the aggregate result.
Original source
Changes from last time: None
S
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
A
2006 - Avowed Thief, Ishikawa Goemon
3276 - 討弓の鋼星神, Meridionalis
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
3129 - 悪魔超人最後の刺客・Akuma Shogun
B
2939 - Treasure Blade Dragon, Drahklist
2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
3166 - 燃える革命, Dogiragon
3074 - Awoken Machine Athena
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera

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AppMedia

Original source
Changes from last time: None
SSS
2969 - Star Cutting Time Dragon Caller, Myr
3112 - Sniper at Rest, Myr
2972 - Green Earth Wind Dragon Caller, Kaede
SS
3265 - 全能神・Ra Dragon
3125 - 奇跡の逆転ファイター・Kinnikuman
2995 - Bursting Great Earl of Hell, Ronove
S+
2827 - Armored Batman
2999 - Hell Eye's Evil Duchess, Gremory
3235 - 魔究の狂幻魔, Ilm
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
3223 - Old Castle Freeloader, Sonia Gran
3202 - Goddess of Great Compassion, Acala
S
2971 - Indigo Ocean Water Dragon Caller, Sumire
2997 - Crowned Sacred King of Hell, Paimon
2749 - Awoken Artemis
2945 - Steel Wand Mech Dragon God, Balboa
3090 - Chaotic Black Dragonbound Armor, Ana
2984 - Awoken Izanagi
3068 - Divine General of the Radiant Heaven, Krishna
3299 - Holder of Concealed Feelings, Tifa
3276 - 討弓の鋼星神, Meridionalis
3238 - Reincarnated Minerva
3240 - Reincarnated Ceres
3305 - The Chosen King, Noctis
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
3243 - Reincarnated Parvati
3273 - Reincarnated Ra
3242 - Reincarnated Lakshmi
S-
3239 - Reincarnated Neptune
3069 - Heavenly Virtuous Goddess, Sarasvati
3173 - 冥道の根源神・Izanagi X
3222 - Crimson Orchid Black Witch, Xiang Mei
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
3129 - 悪魔超人最後の刺客・Akuma Shogun
3218 - 最強裝備・Flintlock
3241 - Reincarnated Shiva

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27 thoughts on “JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 43

  1. Kind of surprised by the poor Neptune Dragon ranking – his uuevo seems like it’s at least as good as Krishna, and usually better.

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    • Especially with meidionalis as a sub, he can tackle annoying combo shields. And a 100x multiplier with rows is just insane damage.

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      • I’ve seen Neptune x Meridionis leads being thrown around for Arena 2 farming, I’m excited for it. You lose some HP but get better base damage, no skyfalls to screw up sophet, and really good rcv. 2 Neptune actives is overkill anyways.

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  2. I don’t really get Bastets ranking… I guess she’s just there for her popularity but her gimmick is outdated and her Reincarnated evolution is downright awful. It adds no new value and could’ve been a regular buff. Compared to Kushinada (who at least offers a new plsystyle) she seems rather lackluster, as endgame dungeons force you to bring more utility actives. This also means that you’ll have trouble popping an active every turn.

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      • Hahaha it’s obvious that Kushi is my Waifu (look at my name) but let’s be honest. The reicarnated Evolutions so far are far from innovative and Bastet is no exception.

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        • You’re right, but buffs are buffs. Whether you want to pay the price for them is up to the player.

          Now that we’ve seen a few of them, it’s pretty obvious revos weren’t intended to be innovative, but just to give some new life to dead cards. Design space in PAD is so limited anyways that we can’t really expect them to get creative with everything; they’ve got to save new mechanics for brand new cards to keep people rolling.

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  3. Setsu, why is myr such a good leader? I mean her multiplier compared to everyone else’s seems quite low. 7.7 where ra dragon and neptune dragon and kinnikuman have multipliers that are borderline insane. What makes myr top tier? I’m wondering whether I should farm her or not… even then, I don’t know a good team to do it with. Finally, How did you farm Myr?

    Thx.

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    • You can’t just look at raw multipliers when evaluating a leader. I think the defensive power of the heart-cross speaks for itself. I used Liu Bei to farm Myr.

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    • It’s because the heart cross ability makes it really hard to die, and you can stack rows to boost your damage beyond what that 7.7x seems like.

      The best team to farm her dungeon with is probably ALB, but there are guides to using Dios and other Wood row leads as well. I think A Lucifer is supposed to be pretty good, although there might be better leads at this point, but the appeal to ALB/Dios is that it’s fast and only requires attention on a few floors.
      I personally farmed the easier difficulty with ALB – I gave up a bunch of MP from predra floors, but it gave me a bit more leeway in subs/inherits (also my friend didn’t have a Ra to inherit). There are lots of guides, but in short you’ll need a multi-turn damage void (Thanatos ideally) to deal with Myr’s first few turns until her shield goes away, and the ability to make 5 combos against Pulseneedle (most people use Avalon Drake or similar). Wee Jas has a 75% damage shield, so you usually want a Dragon Killer as well. During a 4x event you can probably skill your Myr in a single day.

      Also you only need to evo her once to get started with her (I still haven’t made her second evo since the mats are a pain in the ass and I’m lazy, plus I think she’s cuter in this form, and I’ve cleared plenty of stuff).

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  4. Why do you think Sumire is ranked a bit low in some of the lists? I know that the 5o1e doesn’t allow for TPA or rows, but her multiplier is still pretty decent and her leader skill allows for a bit more flexibility and damage control that Myr. Sumire deserves love damnit.

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    • Damage is most certainly the issue. In addition to the match-five not stacking with rows and TPAs, Sumire does very low damage herself. In a game where you’re trying to kill Radar Dragons, damage in the low millions per sub isn’t good enough.

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  5. What do you think is keeping some tier lists from rating lakshmi the same tier as parvati. While for one it could be game8s A tier system, it doesn’t explain their perplexing rating of HGran over Roots?

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    • Yeah, I suddenly noticed they removed Lakshmi myself

      I suppose being unbindable is a pretty big perk, as well as access to Kaede and other monstrosities in her sub pool

      Although I still think Lakshmi is better personally because of higher HP teams overall and better row synergy. And also personal bias.

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      • I think you got it right on, being unbindable is probably the difference maker, especially with a leader skill that can be triggered by clearing binds. Also leader active skills… not sure which I prefer, but I would lean toward parvati. Changing water->heart should produce more heart orbs on average than just the 4 that parvati spawns. More orbs than 4 if you don’t combo out non-damage colors regularly.

        I don’t have hard data to back this part up, just a gut feeling, but I also feel like Wood has a better selection of orb changers that produce heart orbs. As well as the leaderskill being a bit hard to use to make a row of hearts plus a row of damage orbs(and other combos) on a consistent basis. Squeezing in a TPA, a row of hearts, and other combos is just a lot easier on regular basis.

        All that said, for a good combo’er, these hurdles are probably less a factor than being unbindable and the active skill difference.

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  6. What are your thoughts on Aizen? He might arguably be the easiest 576x lead right now, do you think he deserves to be somewhere up there?

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    • Pretty strong. I feel like he’s a bit underrated, but then again it’s really, really hard to break into the top couple of tiers so I guess his current place on Game8 is about right. I think pairing the flat 36x for trash with the 576x burst makes for a very consistent team. I’ll do a bit more research on him for the next tier list post.

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