Godfest Help Post: 1/14-1/15

2657 - Heroic God-Emperor, Yamato Takeru2658 - Adored Starsea Goddess, Andromeda2659 - Brave Vanquishing Deity, Perseus2660 - Fervent Monkey King, Sun Wukong2662 - Awoken Pandora2384 - Ruling Firestorm God, Set2385 - Divine Galaxy Goddess, Nut2386 - Soul-Judging God of Dark Riches, Osiris2387 - Sacred Life Goddess of the Colored Sky, Hathor2388 - Soaring Night Goddess of the Dead, Nephthys
2392 - Awoken Freyr2393 - Awoken Idunn&Idunna2394 - Awoken Freyja2395 - Awoken Thor2396 - Awoken Loki3101 - Patriot Warrior, Sanada Yukimura3103 - Contemplative Strategist, Mori Motonari3105 - Humanistic Spy, Ishida Mitsunari3107 - Radiant Dandy, Maeda Keiji3109 - Meticulous Rebel, Akechi Mitsuhide

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon-combinations. Grades do not factor co-op or skill inheritance at this time.
Godfest: Heroes & Egypt 2 1/14, Norse & Sengoku 1/15
Criteria
Day 1 Day 2
Heroes Egypt 2 Norse Sengoku
Leader
Individual B B- B+ B
Combined B B+
Sub
Individual A+ C- B A-
Combined B A-
Overall
Individual A- C B+ B+
Combined B A-

This is a help thread, so please feel free to ask questions on just about anything concerning the godfest or your teams, box and progress in general.

It’s been over two months since my last help thread. I’m looking to keep the question count low while I settle back in, but let’s see if there’s any interest in the first place.

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Godfest Help Post: 9/17-9/18

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon combinations.
Godfest: Chinese & Greek 9/17, Heroes & Egypt 2 9/18
Criteria
Day 1 Day 2
Chinese Greek Heroes Egypt 2
Leader
Individual B B+ B+ B-
Combined B+ B
Sub
Individual B+ B+ A+ C
Combined B+ B
Overall
Individual B B+ A C+
Combined B+ B

This is a help thread, so please feel free to ask questions on just about anything concerning the godfest or your teams, box and progress in general.

Please read the rules before posting, especially if this is your first time:

  • I will only take box questions that supply a PADherder. It makes it much, much easier for me to give good advice this way (you could say I can’t give good advice without the sorting options). Try PadListener to sync if you’re on Android (if it works for you), otherwise use this method.
  • Box/roll questions that don’t supply rank, IAP status and main teams will be ignored. Any other information you want to supply will only help.
  • Please check the FAQ after the break before asking a question. Questions that aren’t covered by the FAQ will be prioritized; questions that don’t may be ignored.
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Godfest Help Post: 6/30-7/1

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon combinations.
Godfest: Three Kingdoms & Egypt 2 6/30, Sengoku & Norse 7/1
Criteria
Day 1 Day 2
Three Kingdoms Egypt 2 Sengoku Norse
Leader
Individual B+ B B- A
Combined B+ B+
Sub
Individual B+ B- B B+
Combined B B+
Overall
Individual B+ B- B A-
Combined B+ B+

This is a help thread, so please feel free to ask questions on just about anything concerning the godfest or your teams, box and progress in general.

This thread has become increasingly difficult to manage. I’ve thought it over, but I think the current system is the best considering I can’t modify any of the software on this site, the base WordPress comments offers no sort of moderator support and I want to allow anonymous comments for as long as possible. An external tool is not appealing, either. So the only thing that will change going forward is that rule breakers will have their comments removed, without warning. If it turns out too many people are breaking the rules, I’ll reevaluate how to manage this thread in the future, but for the most part people have been great so I don’t anticipate that.

Anyways, here are the rules. Please read the rules before posting, especially if this is your first time:

  • I will only take box questions that supply a PADherder. It makes it much, much easier for me to give good advice this way (you could say I can’t give good advice without the sorting options). Try PadListener to sync if you’re on Android (if it works for you), otherwise use this method.
  • Box/roll questions that don’t supply rank, IAP status and main teams will be ignored. Any other information you want to supply will only help.
  • Please check the FAQ after the break before asking a question. Questions that aren’t covered by the FAQ will be prioritized; questions that don’t may be ignored.
  • WordPress flags comments with multiple links. I still get the comment, I just have to approve it manually for it to show up on the site. So if your comment doesn’t show up, this might be the case. Ideally, only post a single link to your PADherder.
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JP Aggregate Leader List: Trial Week 5

JP Aggregate Leader List β

Changes from last time: Yomi Dragon 1➞2, Shiva Dragon 2➞3, Raoh 2➞3, Freyr 2➞❀, Rukia 2➞3, AD Lucifer 2➞3, Bastet 3➞4, Ra 3➞4, Ushio & Tora 3➞4, Sakuya 3➞4, Yomi 3➞4, Kite 3➞4, Sylvie ❀➞4, Freyja ❀➞4, Ichigo ❀➞4, Hathor added to ❀, Fenrir added to ❀
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
1
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2
2255 - Sea Deity, Neptune Dragon
2662 - Awoken Pandora
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
3
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
2445 - The Greatest Enemy, Raoh
2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
2443 - Returning-Claw Blue Dragonbound, Ryune
2393 - Awoken Idunn&Idunna
2566 - Ancestral Blue Dragon Caller, Sonia
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2441 - Judging-Claw Orange Dragonbound, Saria
2395 - Awoken Thor
2013 - Awoken Anubis
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
4
2011 - Awoken Bastet
2509 - Cutting-Claw Green Dragonbound, Sylvie
2394 - Awoken Freyja
2012 - Awoken Ra
2465 - Ushio & Tora
2389 - Awoken Sakuya
2325 - Awoken Yomi
2230 - 気狂いピエロ, Kite
2677 - Hollow Ichigo Kurosaki
1954 - Awoken Shiva
2392 - Awoken Freyr
2537 - Year's First Dream God of Luck, Horus
2602 - 最高の男・Bouya Harumichi
2744 - 忘我の赤龍契士・Gadius
2009 - Awoken Horus
2511 - Mistress of the Sanctuary, Kali
2604 - 鈴蘭最強の男・Hayashida Megumi
1955 - Awoken Lakshmi
2226 - 制約と誓約, Gon Freecss
1956 - Awoken Parvati
2594 - Anti-God Machine, Ragnarok Dragon
1951 - Tome-Creating White Phantom Demon, Ilm
2534 - Crimson Sun Longevity Dragon Caller, Kanna
2387 - Sacred Life Goddess of the Colored Sky, Hathor
2533 - Excursion Dancing Goddess, Amaterasu Ohkami
2324 - Awoken Amaterasu Ohkami
2030 - Cloud & Hardy-Daytona
2148 - Dawn Sky Sun Dragon Caller, Kanna
2447 - Last Nanto General, Yuria
2660 - Fervent Monkey King, Sun Wukong
1901 - 最強装備, Juggler
2641 - Gods' Enemy Monstrous Wolf, Fenrir
1644 - Arbiter of Judgement, Metatron
1847 - Maleficent Phantom Dragon King, Zaerog∞
2745 - 滅法の黒龍契士・Typhon
2407 - Mistress of the Old Castle, Kali
2592 - Judging Scale Steel Star Goddess, Eschamali
2737 - Dusking Dragon Caller, Sonia Gran Reverse
2360 - Mankind's Strongest Soldier, Levi

Introduction: This is an attempt to aggregate the various JP leader lists, hopefully resulting in a more consistent list. On top of the usual skepticism associated with tier lists, take this list with a grain of salt as I’m still tweaking the aggregation method. I try to address any anomalies in the post, so please read it in its entirety before asking questions.

Notes: GameWith rocked the boat this week, so I took the opportunity to make a few changes to the way the aggregate list is compiled. First, I reworked the impact a non-grade has on a given card’s score. Previously, a single site not grading a card made it impossible to place in a numbered tier. It will still be difficult, but at least now there’s a chance (see: Ichigo, who still isn’t graded by GameWith). Second, I added a fourth numbered tier. Now that Ra Dragon is once again the undisputed best leader in the game, it belongs in its own tier. Lastly, I changed the way leader pairs are processed. This won’t make much difference from a reader’s viewpoint, but I made several under-the-hood changes to improve support. With all these changes in mind, please use your discretion when evaluating the tiers and changes.

GameWith: I’ll go over the GameWith changes more in its own section, but in addition to making some huge changes, they took farming proficiency out of their leader list equation entirely and instead made a separate farming list.

JP Aggregate Leader List β Changes of Note

Card Notes
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
Change: 1➞2

GameWith took the initiative and downgraded Yomi Dragon which resulted in it being booted out of the rarefied air now solely occupied by Ra Dragon. This is particularly relevant to NA as we just got Arena 2 where Yomi Dragon just doesn’t cut it anymore. Yes, Yomi Dragon is still one of the best Arena 1 leaders in the game, but if the endgame is to be measured by Arena 2 then this downgrade makes sense. Whether Arena 2 is a fair representation of the endgame, well, that’s another story. Then there’s the possible impact of skill inheritance, but that’s an issue that’ll have to be addressed at a later date.

2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
Change: 2➞3

Game8 is now the only list that champions Shiva Dragon as an endgame lead (although AppMedia is on the fence). While it’s one of my most used teams, I’ve never once used Shiva Dragon to clear endgame content, if that makes any difference.

2445 - The Greatest Enemy, Raoh
Change: 2➞3

It looks like the love affair with Raoh has been cut short. GameWith’s downgrade makes a lot of sense since they took farming out of the equation, but AppMedia’s backpedaling is reminiscent of Game8’s. I overall agree with this new position.

2392 - Awoken Freyr
Change: 2➞❀

Game8 and GameWith broke Raoh’s association with Freyr which is something I wholeheartedly agree with and even argued for last week. Basically, the Freyr leader pair is just a tool in Raoh’s arsenal, but isn’t critical to the team’s success.

2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
Change: 2➞3

Rukia’s downgrade is a result of my fiddling with the aggregate scoring system; there was no movement on any of the tier lists.

2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
Change: 2➞3

I’ve seen a number of debates on Lucifer vs. Pandora, most of which are unconvincing either way. This is usually reflective of them being on the same level or a gross misevaluation by the players. At the very least GameWith seems to think Pandora is significantly better.

2011 - Awoken Bastet
Change: 3➞4

Tier-4 was basically created for Bastet, Ra, Sakuya, and Yomi; once elite leaders who are still great, but can’t compete at the highest levels anymore. Tier-3 and above only include cards that have HP and/or RCV multipliers which is telling of where the endgame meta is shifting (although I can’t really explain Anubis).

2677 - Hollow Ichigo Kurosaki
Change: ❀➞4

Ichigo still isn’t rated by GameWith, but my scoring changes allowed him to make tier-4. At this point it’s questionable whether they’ll grade him at all; the last time something was in their holding tank this long was Ragnarok Dragon who ended up not making it.


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Godfest Help Post: 2/13-2/14

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon combinations.
Godfest: Three Kingdoms & Egypt 2 2/13, Chinese and Archdemons 2/14
Criteria
Day 1 Day 2
Three Kingdoms Egypt 2 Chinese Archdemons
Leader
Individual B- B+ B+ B
Combined B B+
Sub
Individual B+ B- A- B+
Combined B A
Overall
Individual B B A- B+
Combined B A

I’m going to be pressed for time the next month or two, so I’m going to be a bit more strict with the rules this time.

  • I will prioritize box questions that supply a PADherder. It makes it much, much easier for me to give good advice this way. Try PadListener if you’re on Android (if it works for you), otherwise use this method.
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  • Please check the FAQ after the break before asking a question. Questions that aren’t covered by the FAQ will be prioritized; questions that don’t may be ignored.

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Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 1/7/15

Leads

Changes from 1/4: Freyr added as pair for Raoh, Parvati A+→A, A-tier completely revamped: Ilm added, Kanna added, Juggler added, HKali added, RKali added, Eschamali added, New Year’s Amaterasu added, New Year’s Kanna added, Vegito removed, Sarasvati removed, Osiris removed, Rinshia removed, Hathor removed, Zaerog∞ removed
SS 2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
S 2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon2255 - Sea Deity, Neptune Dragon2505 - Awoken Astaroth2389 - Awoken Sakuya2013 - Awoken Anubis2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
A+ 1954 - Awoken Shiva2445 - 最大の強敵, Raoh2392 - Awoken Freyr1955 - Awoken Lakshmi2443 - 還爪の青龍契士・Ryuune2393 - Awoken Idunn&Idunna2566 - 隔世の蒼龍喚士・Sonia2011 - Awoken Bastet2012 - Awoken Ra2465 - Ushio & Tora2441 - 裁爪の橙龍契士・Saria2395 - Awoken Thor2447 - 南斗最後の将, Yuria2325 - Awoken Yomi2230 - 気狂いピエロ, Kite
A 2537 - 夢招福神, Horus2511 - Mistress of the Sanctuary, Kali2226 - 制約と誓約, Gon Freecss1956 - Awoken Parvati2534 - 紅日の寿龍喚士, Kanna1951 - Tome-Creating White Phantom Demon, Ilm2533 - 遊山の天舞神, Amaterasu Ohkami2324 - Awoken Amaterasu Ohkami2148 - Dawn Sky Sun Dragon Caller, Kanna1901 - 最強装備, Juggler1949 - Lightning Black Dragonbound, Typhon1644 - Arbiter of Judgement, Metatron2592 - 裁秤の鋼星神・Eschamali2407 - Mistress of the Old Castle, Kali2360 - Mankind's Strongest Soldier, Levi

Subs

Changes from 1/4: A+ revamp: DMeta A→A+, Leilan A→A+, Karin A→A+, Amaterasu A→A+, Artemis A→A+, Phoenix Rider removed, Christmas Liu Bei removed, Baggi removed, Liu Bei removed, Kanna removed, Zaerog∞ removed, Eschamali removed, A-tier removed: Sanada, Set, Kagutsuchi, Andromeda, Orochi, Famiel, BSnnia, Verdandi, Kaede, Astaroth, GSonia, Ilm, Ariel, Indra, Izanagi, Summer Pandora, Zuoh, Pandora, Akechi all removed | The new MP Dragon Ragnarok debuts as an A+ sub, but there’s no official icon for it yet.
SS 2511 - Mistress of the Sanctuary, Kali2078 - Blazing Goddess of Power, Kali
S 1738 - Dominating Warrior King, Cao Cao2010 - Awoken Isis1747 - Sparkling Goddess of Secrets, Kali2180 - Pacifying Yomi Goddess, Izanami2282 - Placating Founder, Okuninushi2150 - Ominous Moon Dragon Caller, Satsuki
A+ 2073 - Awoken Leilan2235 - Avenging War Deity, Ares2074 - Awoken Karin2236 - Psychopomp Commerce Deity, Hermes2443 - 還爪の青龍契士・Ryuune2075 - Awoken Meimei2081 - Divine Creator of Order, Vishnu2509 - 伐爪の緑龍契士, Sylvie2237 - Moon Flower Huntress, Artemis2441 - 裁爪の橙龍契士・Saria1887 - 幸七羽毛・ヘッドロココ2533 - 遊山の天舞神, Amaterasu Ohkami2324 - Awoken Amaterasu Ohkami1785 - warrior rose, graceful valkyrie2076 - Awoken Haku2290 - Snow-White Beauty, Valkyrie Claire1644 - Arbiter of Judgement, Metatron2407 - Mistress of the Old Castle, Kali2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon

The Game8 list

So, this is a pretty substantial update to their tier list. Not only are the tiers now synced with their site’s actual monster ratings instead of “just eyeballing it”, there is now a panel of three writers that give reasons for the grade, although from what I can tell their explanations don’t really tell us that much. The weakness of my Japanese — and Google’s, for that matter — will become even more apparent. It’d probably be a good idea to get someone fluent to actually help me with these posts now, but that feels like it’d just be a flat out pain in the ass for both of us.

SS-tier is added to the sub list and the A-tier is removed. I’m not entirely sure why they had to add SS, but whatever floats their boat. There are some things I don’t necessarily agree with (Eschamali omitted, Artemis included, Cao Cao and Satsuki still at S), but the list looks better than it used to (cya, Liu Bei). I’ll still say sub lists are rather pointless, though, since what subs are good for a particular lead or leads is the important thing, not how good they are relative to each other with no context.

The leader list, however, finally got rid of that horrible game of musical chairs at A and is much better for it. While some entries may be questionable, I don’t have any huge problems with the new list. If it wasn’t obvious before, it’s now easy to see that light and dark are totally dominating the game now that token leaders from each element are no longer cluttering A.

Considering they just changed the format and I’m still debating what I want to do with this post series, I’ll once again pass on discussing the specifics until a later time.

Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 1/4/15

Leads

Changes from 12/29: Ra S→A+, Astaroth A+→S, Archdemon Lucifer A+→S
SS 2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
S 2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon2255 - Sea Deity, Neptune Dragon2505 - Awoken Astaroth2389 - Awoken Sakuya2013 - Awoken Anubis2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
A+ 1954 - Awoken Shiva2445 - 最大の強敵, Raoh1955 - Awoken Lakshmi2566 - 隔世の蒼龍喚士・Sonia2443 - 還爪の青龍契士・Ryuune2393 - Awoken Idunn&Idunna2011 - Awoken Bastet1956 - Awoken Parvati2012 - Awoken Ra2465 - Ushio & Tora2447 - 南斗最後の将, Yuria2441 - 裁爪の橙龍契士・Saria2395 - Awoken Thor2325 - Awoken Yomi2230 - 気狂いピエロ, Kite
A 2537 - 夢招福神, Horus1937 - 最強戦士・超ベジット2080 - Wise and Moral Goddess, Sarasvati2386 - Soul-Judging God of Dark Riches, Osiris2226 - 制約と誓約, Gon Freecss1843 - 玻璃の風龍王, Rinshia2324 - Awoken Amaterasu Ohkami2387 - 彩天聖命神・Hathor1949 - Lightning Black Dragonbound, Typhon1644 - Arbiter of Judgement, Metatron1847 - Maleficent Phantom Dragon King, Zaerog∞2360 - Mankind's Strongest Soldier, Levi

Subs

Changes from 12/29: None
S 1738 - Dominating Warrior King, Cao Cao2511 - Mistress of the Sanctuary, Kali2010 - Awoken Isis1747 - Sparkling Goddess of Secrets, Kali2078 - Blazing Goddess of Power, Kali2180 - Pacifying Yomi Goddess, Izanami2282 - Placating Founder, Okuninushi2150 - Ominous Moon Dragon Caller, Satsuki
A+ 2094 - Phoenix Rider Valen2514 - Lively Banquet Dragon Hero, Liu Bei2235 - Avenging War Deity, Ares859 - ドスバギィ&バギィネコ2236 - Psychopomp Commerce Deity, Hermes2443 - 還爪の青龍契士・Ryuune1743 - Restrained Dragon Hero, Liu Bei2075 - Awoken Meimei2081 - Divine Creator of Order, Vishnu2509 - 伐爪の緑龍契士, Sylvie2441 - 裁爪の橙龍契士・Saria1887 - 幸七羽毛・ヘッドロココ1785 - warrior rose, graceful valkyrie2148 - Dawn Sky Sun Dragon Caller, Kanna2076 - Awoken Haku2290 - Snow-White Beauty, Valkyrie Claire1847 - Maleficent Phantom Dragon King, Zaerog∞2407 - Mistress of the Old Castle, Kali2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon2592 - 裁秤の鋼星神・Eschamali
A 2265 - Fierce Warrior, Sanada Yukimura2073 - Awoken Leilan2384 - Ruling Firestorm God, Set1726 - Awoken Hinokagutsuchi2074 - Awoken Karin1733 - Blue Chain Starsea Goddess, Andromeda2322 - Awoken Orochi2494 - 巡警の星天使・Famiel2566 - 隔世の蒼龍喚士・Sonia2390 - Thought Spinner Norn, Verdandi2146 - Fall Wind Jasper Dragon Caller, Kaede2505 - Awoken Astaroth2237 - Moon Flower Huntress, Artemis2567 - 宿世の翠龍喚士・Sonia1951 - Tome-Creating White Phantom Demon, Ilm2496 - 煌斧の星天使・Ariel2324 - Awoken Amaterasu Ohkami1926 - Heaven-Shaking Thunderdragon, Indra2281 - Creator God of Twin Skies, Izanagi1644 - Arbiter of Judgement, Metatron2292 - Bleak Night Daughter, Pandora1953 - Enraged Black Phantom Demon, Zuoh1736 - Wailing Bleak Night Goddess, Pandora2273 - Deliberate Rebel, Akechi Mitsuhide

The Game8 list

Keeping this quick, but I may add to it later. I never expected Ra to get booted out of S. Is he really worse than the rest of the new S-tier? I also never expected Astaroth or Lucifer to make it to S. I was already planning on making teams for them, but now I’m even more intrigued. I definitely plan on doing some research once I get back home.