I actually like multiple Leilans on Tsubaki. She’s much more common than Ilm, too, and is somewhat more reliable to activate off a Leilan board than Ilm. There’s a lot a lot of haste synergy and Tsubaki’s orb generation interacts well with Leilan.
I am still on the fence about a Tsubaki & A.Leilan system team. I don’t remember if Leilan’s board change will give you a consistent amount of fire orbs, but you would need a minimum of 11 fire orbs with 1 of them being enhanced for a Tsubaki & A.Leilan system team. With 11 fire orbs you’ll be able to take advantage of the row awokens and with the 5 orbs & 1 enhanced for Tsubaki’s LS. That would be awesome if you can consistently hit that every board change but I still feel that sometimes you might be screwed over by it. Would the damage output just from Tsubaki’s LS be enough for the upper levels of the challenge dungeons without doing a row of fire?
I don’t think Tsubaki is all that less consistent than Ilm, if at all. After using the Zuoh-Meimei System for so long I can tell you that you miss your full leader activation much more than you’d like and Ilm-Leilan is even more orb hungry being row based. This is just a major weakness of Chinese system teams in general. Unless a better leader comes out, you’re going to have to deal with the inconsistency in one way or another. If that’s not your thing, then a Chinese system isn’t for you.
The point about Tsubaki needing 11 fire orbs is a bit unfair. You need 9 fire orbs to activate Ilm and also make a row, but you don’t have the option of improving a Leilan board with Tsubaki’s active. You can also still do a decent amount of damage with just 5 fire orbs where Ilm is just screwed. Granted, Tsubaki needs the enhanced orb which is a significant downside. Because of this she’s not the perfect Leilan lead and may or not be as good as Ilm, but she’s much more common to roll so I think she’s a pretty good option.
That is amazing luck. I rolled once hoping for either Kanna or Satsuki but got an Urd. Quickly sold for MP as that was my 4th or 5th. I may roll once more tomorrow hoping to get those two or my 4th Ares, but I should probably save stones for skill ups and +eggs. I need 100 more +eggs to be able to pentamax Ra Dragon when he comes out.
Good point. Making sure your Ra Dragon team is ready should probably be the highest priority. I’m glad I can now say I’ll be joining you on the Ra Dragon train.
Grats man! Game wants me to make a Shiva Dragon team I think… gave me 3 Markab and 4 Ares and a Sanada. Was hoping for a Dkali and Kanna, maybe next time
Those are some great rolls even if they may have not been what you wanted. I really like the new CyberBeasts/Dragons. They were made for mindless farming. I just hope we get their skill ups sooner rather than later. I’m hoping a Shiva Dragon/Markab system can do some things, but I haven’t really looked into it. Sanada also serves a role on Shiva Dragon Arena-clearing teams.
So a Markab system would consist of 4 Markabs? Too bad there is no skill up options.
Btw in my rage for not getting Akechi I bought a Shiva Dragon so that is why I am asking. 🙂
To be honest, I haven’t really thought about the team. 4 guarantees a system loop, but then the Shiva Dragons’ actives are basically useless. There’s probably a better way to set up the team, especially if you need more orbs to burst certain floors.
I also don’t know how it would compare to a Shiva Dragon/Ares team either, which may just be better.
I cant reply to your response below so I will respond here. I now find myself wanting a couple Ares so I will roll yet again tomorrow and thank you for your response regarding Markab.
In a bit of good news, I did get my Akechi for Typhon, but I had to buy more stones to get him. Hopefully Ares will be less difficult to get tomorrow.
From Game8 template, they have ShivaDra / Urd / Markab / Markab / Markab / ShivaDra for a full loop system team, guessing Urd simply for board clear or recovery and boss finish. It would infinite loop as well. 3 Markab > ShivaDra repeat was wondering which would be better, Ares setup options or Markab.
People use Shiva Dragon to clear Arena ? I never even bothered checking that. Figured it’d just be a nice farm team/descend clearer.
Do you have two Dkali for Ra Dragon? Or just the one? and what setup will you use for Ra Dragon?
Any point even looking at the other MP Dragons outside of Shiva/Ra ? (Hoping not to be honest)
Yeah, it does loop. That’s pretty sick. I’m looking forward to getting Markab skill ups. Yup, I’m guessing Urd is there for those very reasons, but it looks like you can put pretty much anything in that slot. Here’s a YouTube search link, if anyone was curious: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=マルカブシステãƒ
Yes, Shiva Dragon has Arena teams, although I don’t know how consistent they are. One was mentioned by Ben somewhere in some other comments which was Shiva Dragon / Ares / Sanada / Urd / Freyr / Shiva Dragon. Urd + Sanada + Freyr can give you enough damage for Kali.
Yes, I have 2 DKalis now. I’m going to use the cookie cutter Ra Dragon / DKali / DKali / God Vritra / Awoken Isis / Ra Dragon team.
I think Shiva and Ra Dragons cover most things. Neptune and Yomi are good alternatives to Shiva depending on your box and what subs you have.
So if Markab only has 1 haste, theoretically you can replace him with Tsubuki(only because I don’t have 3 Markab) and then the system still works right? I know the full column of red is preferred but if I don’t have 3 I cant do anything about that for now.
I rolled more today (I really shouldn’t watch people stream their rolls… I have no self control) and got 2 ROdins. It’s hard to distinguish what was extreme luck and what was the 4x bonus, but from the few rolls I did and the streams I watched it *seems* like 4x made a huge difference. At the very least the MP value was through the roof.
Is it worth investing in a Ra Dragon team for Ultimate Arena when I do not have Indra? He seems to be such a core piece in surviving waves 19 and 20 reliably.
Maybe. I guess you could run a damage enhance or Zeus & Hera instead for the Kalis and maybe latent resits + Isis can get you past DQ Hera (I haven’t don’t the math on that). You’d probably be sacrificing some consistency, but I can’t imagine it’s that much worse. Then again, I haven’t really done much research on Arena clears myself so I’m not exactly a reliable source. I may look into it more in the future when Ra Dragon gets closer, but until then I’ll be relying on what I’ve heard from others.
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Nice pulls, mine were all fails and I don’t see many samurai pulls @pf, so I’m gonna stop before I jump off a cliff. Zuoh #6 Ronia #4 Urd #4.
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I got two of the Sengokus in 11 pulls, but I didn’t want them (or the two new LMetas…)
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That sucks. At least the increased GFE rate means more of your misses contribute more MP.
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Why don’t you like the Sengokus?
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More time extends!! More!!
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My favorite awakening, by far.
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So lucky. What do I do with a third Leilan?
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Be like me and start a Ilm-Leiland System project 😛 Still don’t got a MeiMei but I sure do have 4 Leilans
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Well that requires an Ilm… Like my Kirin needs L.Kali. :-p send me both and we have a deal.
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I actually like multiple Leilans on Tsubaki. She’s much more common than Ilm, too, and is somewhat more reliable to activate off a Leilan board than Ilm. There’s a lot a lot of haste synergy and Tsubaki’s orb generation interacts well with Leilan.
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I am still on the fence about a Tsubaki & A.Leilan system team. I don’t remember if Leilan’s board change will give you a consistent amount of fire orbs, but you would need a minimum of 11 fire orbs with 1 of them being enhanced for a Tsubaki & A.Leilan system team. With 11 fire orbs you’ll be able to take advantage of the row awokens and with the 5 orbs & 1 enhanced for Tsubaki’s LS. That would be awesome if you can consistently hit that every board change but I still feel that sometimes you might be screwed over by it. Would the damage output just from Tsubaki’s LS be enough for the upper levels of the challenge dungeons without doing a row of fire?
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I don’t think Tsubaki is all that less consistent than Ilm, if at all. After using the Zuoh-Meimei System for so long I can tell you that you miss your full leader activation much more than you’d like and Ilm-Leilan is even more orb hungry being row based. This is just a major weakness of Chinese system teams in general. Unless a better leader comes out, you’re going to have to deal with the inconsistency in one way or another. If that’s not your thing, then a Chinese system isn’t for you.
The point about Tsubaki needing 11 fire orbs is a bit unfair. You need 9 fire orbs to activate Ilm and also make a row, but you don’t have the option of improving a Leilan board with Tsubaki’s active. You can also still do a decent amount of damage with just 5 fire orbs where Ilm is just screwed. Granted, Tsubaki needs the enhanced orb which is a significant downside. Because of this she’s not the perfect Leilan lead and may or not be as good as Ilm, but she’s much more common to roll so I think she’s a pretty good option.
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Also, for any Lv10 you wouldn’t bring a system team unless it was ridiculously easy.
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That is amazing luck. I rolled once hoping for either Kanna or Satsuki but got an Urd. Quickly sold for MP as that was my 4th or 5th. I may roll once more tomorrow hoping to get those two or my 4th Ares, but I should probably save stones for skill ups and +eggs. I need 100 more +eggs to be able to pentamax Ra Dragon when he comes out.
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Good point. Making sure your Ra Dragon team is ready should probably be the highest priority. I’m glad I can now say I’ll be joining you on the Ra Dragon train.
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Let me know if you want to add as a friend. I’ll most likely have him up quite a bit.
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Grats man! Game wants me to make a Shiva Dragon team I think… gave me 3 Markab and 4 Ares and a Sanada. Was hoping for a Dkali and Kanna, maybe next time
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Those are some great rolls even if they may have not been what you wanted. I really like the new CyberBeasts/Dragons. They were made for mindless farming. I just hope we get their skill ups sooner rather than later. I’m hoping a Shiva Dragon/Markab system can do some things, but I haven’t really looked into it. Sanada also serves a role on Shiva Dragon Arena-clearing teams.
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So a Markab system would consist of 4 Markabs? Too bad there is no skill up options.
Btw in my rage for not getting Akechi I bought a Shiva Dragon so that is why I am asking. 🙂
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To be honest, I haven’t really thought about the team. 4 guarantees a system loop, but then the Shiva Dragons’ actives are basically useless. There’s probably a better way to set up the team, especially if you need more orbs to burst certain floors.
I also don’t know how it would compare to a Shiva Dragon/Ares team either, which may just be better.
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I cant reply to your response below so I will respond here. I now find myself wanting a couple Ares so I will roll yet again tomorrow and thank you for your response regarding Markab.
In a bit of good news, I did get my Akechi for Typhon, but I had to buy more stones to get him. Hopefully Ares will be less difficult to get tomorrow.
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Rolling during 2x is pretty risky, but if you go through with it I wish you luck. Grats on the Akechi!
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From Game8 template, they have ShivaDra / Urd / Markab / Markab / Markab / ShivaDra for a full loop system team, guessing Urd simply for board clear or recovery and boss finish. It would infinite loop as well. 3 Markab > ShivaDra repeat was wondering which would be better, Ares setup options or Markab.
People use Shiva Dragon to clear Arena ? I never even bothered checking that. Figured it’d just be a nice farm team/descend clearer.
Do you have two Dkali for Ra Dragon? Or just the one? and what setup will you use for Ra Dragon?
Any point even looking at the other MP Dragons outside of Shiva/Ra ? (Hoping not to be honest)
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Yeah, it does loop. That’s pretty sick. I’m looking forward to getting Markab skill ups. Yup, I’m guessing Urd is there for those very reasons, but it looks like you can put pretty much anything in that slot. Here’s a YouTube search link, if anyone was curious: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=マルカブシステãƒ
Yes, Shiva Dragon has Arena teams, although I don’t know how consistent they are. One was mentioned by Ben somewhere in some other comments which was Shiva Dragon / Ares / Sanada / Urd / Freyr / Shiva Dragon. Urd + Sanada + Freyr can give you enough damage for Kali.
Yes, I have 2 DKalis now. I’m going to use the cookie cutter Ra Dragon / DKali / DKali / God Vritra / Awoken Isis / Ra Dragon team.
I think Shiva and Ra Dragons cover most things. Neptune and Yomi are good alternatives to Shiva depending on your box and what subs you have.
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So if Markab only has 1 haste, theoretically you can replace him with Tsubuki(only because I don’t have 3 Markab) and then the system still works right? I know the full column of red is preferred but if I don’t have 3 I cant do anything about that for now.
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Yeah, it should work.
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holy cow that luck ! Nice pulls indeed. That Dkali. been eluding me for months. Hopefully I get her tomorrow.
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Good luck!
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Tell me, did you seriously get 3 6* GFEs in 8 rolls, or is this the end result after MP purging ?
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Yup, it was only 8 rolls 🙂
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Either I seriously underestimated the power of 4x or the game is seriously apologizing for that 0/40 run on Ares…
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I rolled more today (I really shouldn’t watch people stream their rolls… I have no self control) and got 2 ROdins. It’s hard to distinguish what was extreme luck and what was the 4x bonus, but from the few rolls I did and the streams I watched it *seems* like 4x made a huge difference. At the very least the MP value was through the roof.
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Are the Latent resist Tama’s not farmable ? Don’t see them in the invade rotation, any idea if they will be available outside of MP shop ?
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They’re farmable through the 5×4 descended coin dungeons. If/when NA gets them is another story.
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Is it worth investing in a Ra Dragon team for Ultimate Arena when I do not have Indra? He seems to be such a core piece in surviving waves 19 and 20 reliably.
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Maybe. I guess you could run a damage enhance or Zeus & Hera instead for the Kalis and maybe latent resits + Isis can get you past DQ Hera (I haven’t don’t the math on that). You’d probably be sacrificing some consistency, but I can’t imagine it’s that much worse. Then again, I haven’t really done much research on Arena clears myself so I’m not exactly a reliable source. I may look into it more in the future when Ra Dragon gets closer, but until then I’ll be relying on what I’ve heard from others.
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