JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 14

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: You Yu added to 2, AD Lucifer 3➞2, Sephiroth 3➞2, Astaroth 2➞3, Yuna ❀➞3, Machine Zeus added to 3, BSonia 3➞❀, Machine Hera added to ❀, Raoh removed from ❀
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
1
2756 - 紅蘭の君子, Xiang Mei
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2
2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
2758 - 蒼竹の君子・You Yu
2662 - Awoken Pandora
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
3
2255 - Sea Deity, Neptune Dragon
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2441 - Judging-Claw Orange Dragonbound, Saria
2395 - Awoken Thor
2766 - Unwavering Summoner, Yuna
2904 - Awoken Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
2013 - Awoken Anubis
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
2443 - Returning-Claw Blue Dragonbound, Ryune
2393 - Awoken Idunn&Idunna
2566 - Ancestral Blue Dragon Caller, Sonia
2389 - Awoken Sakuya
2750 - Awoken Apollo
2762 - 紫梅の君子, Xin Hua
2751 - Awoken Persephone
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera

Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.


Going to keep the comments short this time. The most notable change this time is GameWith updating their list to factor in multiplayer, meaning MZeus and MHera debut on the list proper, but leads like Sephiroth also get a boost.

JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card Notes
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
Change: 3➞2

Received a surprising upgrade from GameWith.

2505 - Awoken Astaroth
Change: 2➞3

I was always skeptical of her placement on the GameWith list. This seems more reasonable.

2766 - Unwavering Summoner, Yuna
Change: ❀➞3

Just in time for the FF Collab on NA.

2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
Change: Added to 3

The official addition of multiplayer to the tier lists signals the beginning of the end for me.

2445 - The Greatest Enemy, Raoh
Change: Removed from ❀

Still one of my favorite teams. RIP.

New Card Holding Tank

New cards will be held here temporarily in an attempt to isolate the aggregate list from knee-jerk ratings.
Card Notes
2943 - 滅翼の龍帝王・Sherias Roots
Ranked Sites: Game8 (S)

110x ATK and 2.25x RCV for dragons sounds pretty strong, especially since DKali and the now seemingly ubiquitous Orochi qualify for the team. In spite of the god killer and superior active, he’s still worse than Ra Dragon due to the lack of bind immunity.


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Game8

Original source
Changes from last time: Sherias Roots added to S, You Yu A➞A+
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SS
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2756 - 紅蘭の君子, Xiang Mei
S
2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
2943 - 滅翼の龍帝王・Sherias Roots
A+
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2662 - Awoken Pandora
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2766 - Unwavering Summoner, Yuna
2904 - Awoken Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
2758 - 蒼竹の君子・You Yu
A
2255 - Sea Deity, Neptune Dragon
2751 - Awoken Persephone
2750 - Awoken Apollo
2566 - Ancestral Blue Dragon Caller, Sonia
2441 - Judging-Claw Orange Dragonbound, Saria
2395 - Awoken Thor
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
2013 - Awoken Anubis

Game8 Changes of Note

Card Notes
2943 - 滅翼の龍帝王・Sherias Roots
Change: Added to S

As with most new additions, I’m a bit skeptical, but Sherias Roots sure seems strong on the surface.


Jump to: Game8 | GameWith | GameWith Farming | AppMedia | Pad-Plus


GameWith

Original source
Changes from last time: Machine Zeus added to SS, AD Lucifer B➞S, Sephiroth added to S, Machine Hera added to S, Astaroth S➞A, Pandora S➞A, You Yu added to A, Raoh removed from A, BSonia removed from A, Ryune A➞B, I&I A➞B, Neptune Dragon removed from A, Saria A➞B, Thor A➞B, Yuna added to B
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SS
2756 - 紅蘭の君子, Xiang Mei
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
S
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera
A
2758 - 蒼竹の君子・You Yu
2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2662 - Awoken Pandora
2013 - Awoken Anubis
B
2443 - Returning-Claw Blue Dragonbound, Ryune
2393 - Awoken Idunn&Idunna
2441 - Judging-Claw Orange Dragonbound, Saria
2395 - Awoken Thor
2766 - Unwavering Summoner, Yuna
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon

Sigh. With this, the first step towards me discontinuing this post series has been taken. I have almost no interest in multiplayer so there’s no point in putting in the work if the lists become too heavily biased towards it.

GameWith Changes of Note

Card Notes
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
Change: Added to SS

Machine Zeus is straight broken and him debuting as SS should be no surprise.

2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
Change: B➞S

Not really sure why Lucifer got such a huge bump. His good points are listed as “good Arena 1 farming” and “benefits greatly from skill inheritance”, but that’s true for plenty of other teams. Pandora aside, since I’m obviously biased towards her, there are plenty of other dark teams that have similar capabilities — like Cecil, Persephone, Nobunaga, and even Yomi Dragon — and they didn’t get anything. Having to play the guessing game with cryptic changes like these is one of the major reasons why taking tier lists as anything more than a starting point for discussion is dangerous. I could speculate all day why he got boosted so much, but in the end we’ll never really know what the author was thinking.

2526 - Awoken Machine Hera
Change: Added to S

Machine Hera isn’t quite as good as MZeus, but is still straight broken.

2566 - Ancestral Blue Dragon Caller, Sonia
Change: Removed from A

RIP.

2255 - Sea Deity, Neptune Dragon
Change: Removed from A

RIP. At least water got You Yu to ease the suffering while wood never gets anything.

2766 - Unwavering Summoner, Yuna
Change: Added to B

While it’s nice to see GameWith as come around on Yuna, the absence of DQXQ seems questionable.


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GameWith Farming

*This list isn’t factored into the aggregate result.
Original source
Changes from last time: Goemon S➞SS, Machine Zeus S➞SS, Neptune Dragon B➞S, Hitsugaya B➞S, Superman A➞S, Machine Hera added to S, Gon B➞A, Raoh removed from B, Ilm removed from B, Killua removed from B, Batmobile Batman removed from B
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SS
2006 - Avowed Thief, Ishikawa Goemon
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
S
2179 - God of the Destroying Lance, Odin
2657 - Heroic God-Emperor, Yamato Takeru
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
2255 - Sea Deity, Neptune Dragon
2691 - Capt of 10th Squad, Toshiro Hitsugaya
2824 - Guardian of Metropolis, Superman
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera
A
2226 - 制約と誓約, Gon Freecss
2689 - Former R&D Chief, Kisuke Urahara
2764 - Cloud & Fenrir

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AppMedia

Original source
Changes from last time: None
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus
SS
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
S+
2756 - 紅蘭の君子, Xiang Mei
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
2662 - Awoken Pandora
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
2758 - 蒼竹の君子・You Yu
S
2255 - Sea Deity, Neptune Dragon
2762 - 紫梅の君子, Xin Hua
2904 - Awoken Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
2389 - Awoken Sakuya
2013 - Awoken Anubis
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
S-
2766 - Unwavering Summoner, Yuna
2566 - Ancestral Blue Dragon Caller, Sonia
2677 - Hollow Ichigo Kurosaki
2445 - The Greatest Enemy, Raoh
2392 - Awoken Freyr
2443 - Returning-Claw Blue Dragonbound, Ryune
2393 - Awoken Idunn&Idunna
2441 - Judging-Claw Orange Dragonbound, Saria
2395 - Awoken Thor
2325 - Awoken Yomi
2509 - Cutting-Claw Green Dragonbound, Sylvie
2394 - Awoken Freyja
2012 - Awoken Ra
2011 - Awoken Bastet
2230 - 気狂いピエロ, Kite
2814 - 図書室の管理神, Kali

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Pad-Plus

*This list isn’t factored into the aggregate result.
Original source
Changes from last time: Machine Zeus 10➞2, DQXQ 2➞5, AD Lucifer 5➞4, Pandora 4➞6, Sinbad 6➞14, Anubis 13➞8, Saria 8➞10, Persephone 12➞9, Xiang Mei removed from 9, Ra Dragon 14➞12, Yomi added to 13
1
2758 - 蒼竹の君子・You Yu
2
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
3
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
4
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
5
2904 - Awoken Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
6
2662 - Awoken Pandora
7
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
8
2013 - Awoken Anubis
9
2751 - Awoken Persephone
10
2441 - Judging-Claw Orange Dragonbound, Saria
11
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
12
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
13
2325 - Awoken Yomi
14
2854 - 魔装フォカロル・Sinbad
15
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon

For details on the aggregation method or each Japanese site used, refer to this page (link someday).

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13 thoughts on “JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 14

  1. Hi Setsu, I was hoping to get your opinion on Xiu Min. I was expecting to at least see him in the holding tank this week. I know he has an amazing sub pool, and he isn’t limited to physical types either.

    He seems just as orb hungry as You Yu, and 110x as a row leader seems pretty insane (25x from shivadra already produces some high numbers). I would love your insight, thanks!

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    • At the time I made the list, he wasn’t even out in JP yet (I think he was added to the MP Shop today). Expect to see him next week.

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      • My apologies, I didn’t realize that. I look forward to it!

        P.S. allow me a moment to fanboy a bit and say that I love your work on this blog. I found you when googling optimal combo board guides and have followed you for at least a year. Thank you for all your hard work!

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  2. How would a Xin hua team with XH, Typhon, Typhon, Typhon, Sleeping Beauty, XH be compared to a Xiang mei team with XM, Gadius, Gadius, Red riding Hood, NY mitsuki, XM? Have 300k mp, and already own a Yomi dragon. A Ra dragon team is possible, but I only have one dkali, and no Indra/kanna.

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    • Both teams seems fairly poor, but the Xiang Mei is innately more powerful to I’d go with her if I absolutely had to choose one.

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  3. It seems that Saria/Thor is still hanging pretty strong.. It’s also fortunate Panda is still pretty strong.. I’m surprised that Rukia/Sephiroth is ranked higher than her. I guess for Rukia, her RCV and sub flexibility makes her better than Panda? Although Panda should have a higher HP threshold.

    As for Sephiroth, 81x is indeed strong, but aside from the Mech Dungeons, I feel Panda is more than capable.

    Oh, I also bought Shiva Dragon recently, and oh man… I have been missing out.. farming most content is such a breeze now haha.. TPAs kill almost everything and a Row kills most sub bosses/bosses. haha

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  4. Just started using Rukia and damn she’s good. She and Scheat make one wicked powerful team.

    What subs are best for bind removal on Yuna? A. Isis? Or something a little more potent?

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  5. Do you dislike multiplayer because it opens up the possibility that others can play them continuously without trouble if they had a reliable partner, thereby giving advantage to certain players as new multiplayer content is released?

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    • I don’t like it because it feels like a sub par product is being forced down our throats. One of PAD’s strengths was that you could run a dungeon at your convenience. You could start a run while waiting in line for lunch then finish later after work is over. To play multiplayer competently, you have to coordinate through a 3rd party application since there’s no matchmaking or communication system. Then the implementation is just clunky; yes it’s getting better, but it’s still missing simple quality of life improvements like a “play again” button. Combine this with them releasing OP leads like MZeus and MHera and pushing rewards and I’ve been turned off to the whole thing. The fact that the last NA challenge dungeons was co-op-only was the straw that broke the camel’s back; I know it won’t always be like that (hopefully), but it was like a realization of all my fears about the feature.

      Despite all that, I’m glad that it’s an option. Many people seem to enjoy it and I think that’s great. It has also foster a small sense of community which is what I think they were going for.

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