Simply put, Bleach is the best collab to hit NA to date. What this means exactly varies from player to player, but I believe that is just another indicator of how strong the lineup is overall. For those looking for powerful leads, all of the 6-stars qualify with Aizen being one of the best overall in the game. For those looking to improve their farming teams, there are appealing options such as Yamamoto, Toshiro and Grimmjow. The silvers are lacking, but you can’t have everything and with an estimated 30-40% gold rate it hopefully won’t hurt too much. It feels like I just hyped up FF as the best, but I’m much more excited for this REM.
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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 22
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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.
For the first time a while, I was ready to do this post on Saturday, but I was waiting on Pad Plus to update their popularity list. Turns out they were actually on time, but they slightly changed things so my script wasn’t picking up the latest page. Then they also slightly changed their format so I had to update scrape script.
JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note
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Change: ❀➞3
This change is due to GameWith adding him to their SS tier. To be perfectly honest, it’s puzzling why he wasn’t there earlier, considering their list also factors co-op. |
New Card Holding Tank
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The consensus seems to be that she’s very strong, but not on Kaede’s level. I don’t think anyone would disagree with that. All other comparisons aside, in practice she’s certainly inferior since she doesn’t have as much movement time as Kaede or Miru. Player skill has never been a stated criteria for these lists, but I’d be surprised if that didn’t play a role in her judgment. |
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Perhaps to many people’s surprise, Ronove is doing about as well as Gremory in these lists. While the rainbow + heart-cross playstyle might sound intimidating, unlike Gremory, Ronove’s team has plenty of time extends. And, as stated last week, his active is much stronger than it looks in text. |
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There’s been much talk about how good Cao Cao actually is, but at least from the aggregate’s perspective, Game8 appears to be the outlier. We’ll see where he lands when he leaves the holding tank next week. |
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Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S+)
2916x ATK sounds quite impressive, but when you see the team in practice, the damage numbers aren’t as big as you might think (still large, but I was expecting way more). Mainly because your combo count is so low and the only offensive awakening you can consistently take advantage of are OEs. However, I guess saying 8+ digits of damage is “low” just reflects how ridiculous teams are nowadays. Perhaps I’ll be more impressed once JP gets to play with the cards themselves instead of just watching a demo; I’ll reserve judgment until then. |
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Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S+)
Saito sure looks great on paper, but it’s hard to judge a card just by that. As with Kenshin, I’ll be waiting for videos out of JP. |
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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 21
JP Aggregate Leader List
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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.
Sorry for the delay, busy holiday weekend and all. However, it turns out that the wait was somewhat of a good thing as now I’m able to incorporate GameWith’s latest changes, namely the addition of an SSS-tier (sigh). It’s actually problematic when a site adds a new, top tier. The main reason is that I weighted cards in their old top tier as a 1 out of 1, but now that there’s a new top tier, how much do I devalue those cards? For now, I think the new weights I chose work, but there may be some transition in the future as I try to balance things out.
JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note
New Card Holding Tank
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Compared to fellow heart-crosser Kaede, Gremory losses some defensive power (58% vs. 75%), but gains much in return, namely a 144x multiplier and bind immunity. True, her leader skill restricts her sub pool, but dark has no problems supplying quality devils and the inclusion of balanced types adds cards like Xin Hua and Typhon to the mix. Her major downside compared to Kaede is her active skill’s lack of haste, meaning there’s no possibility of a “system”; systems are generally overrated, but in the case of things like the heart-crossers and Xiang Mei, the consistency brings near-invulnerability with it. Game8 and AppMedia seem to agree that she’s on Kaede’s level, but GameWith doesn’t; I’m curious to see where she ends up when her time in the holding tank is up. |
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Ronove may not be as good as Kaede or Gremory, but it’s likely he’s being underrated, just like Sumire (and Miru before her). I initially thought his active skill was complete trash beyond serving as a base for skill inheritance. However, after watching this video by Paprika, it becomes apparent that it’s quite strong, especially when used in conjunction with Ragnarok Dragon and Kaede, and only gets better the more hazard orbs a dungeon spawns. Of course, a player of Paprika’s skill level would make any leader seem amazing, but even though the color requirement on top of the heart-cross seems like a steep slope to climb for most players, it’s hard to deny that Ronove is quite strong. |
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Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), Game8 Co-op (S)
Game8 must be out of their minds. First, yes, Cao Cao is a strong leader. However, tier lists only care about the strongest cards and their relative placement. In this regard, can Cao Cao really be compared to the likes of Sumire, You Yu and Nobunaga? And I don’t know, but Ronove looks pretty damned strong, too. There’s always a chance that I’m underrating Cao Cao — I did the same thing with his split uevo about a year ago and look how good he turned out being — but I just don’t think he’s up to snuff with the other leaders in the same tier. So far Game8 is the only site that rated him, but we’ll see where he winds up once he’s released from the tank. |
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Ranked Sites: GameWith (B)
Sarasvati is no You Yu, but the fact that a uuevo can even be compared to an MP card means it’s pretty impressive. I don’t expect the other sites to follow suit with GameWith — the bar to make these lists is so high at this point — but it’d be nice to see her sneak into the lower tiers. I’m personally a big Sarasvati fan and plan on using her in the future. |
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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 20
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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.
Not too much happened this week, so I’ll be using this opportunity to take bit of breather and keep the comments brief. One of the few things that happened was Game8 making what is essentially an honorable mention tier which consists of many of the leads that were booted last week. Considering I was complaining about how exclusive their list was last week, this is a welcome change. However, since this isn’t a “real” tier, I’ll be giving any card that appears there minimal points, similar to what is given to AppMedia’s S- tier.
JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note
New Card Holding Tank
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Robin Hood, plenty powerful with his current sub pool, but I wonder how much higher he’d be rated if a card like Kaede or Vishnu were balanced. |
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Nobunaga should debut at tier-2 or higher once his time in the holding tank is over and it looks like he’s well deserving of that placement. |
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Ranked Sites: GameWith (B)
Sub pool aside, Napoleon topping out at 39x ATK vs. the 81x of his brothers makes him relatively weak. He’s much easier to activate, but that comes at the cost of too much firepower. |
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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 19
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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.
The big news this past week was Game8 rearranging their tier list to make Kaede the sole inhabitant of their SS tier. This should be no surprise as she’s more than worthy, with a unprecedented amount of combined damage and survivability that makes most of the game’s content a joke (even if she is overkill for most situations). I don’t necessarily expect the other lists will follow suit, though, as how much value is there in making that distinction? It’s not like the old Arena 1-Ra Dragon days where that team was so far ahead of everything else AND trivialized farming the most valuable resource in the game at the time. That deserved a distinction. Kaede currently has nothing like that except maybe Arena 3 for Radar Dragons, but why not just co-op that?
JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note
New Card Holding Tank
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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 18
JP Aggregate Leader List
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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.
It’s great to see so many wood cards on the list and it should only improve next week when Kaede and Liu Bei’s time in the holding tank expires. For what it’s worth, all elements seem to be represented fairly well now. There’s still a lack of fire leads; while Xiang Mei is certainly one of the most powerful leads, the element really needs more options. Hopefully Awoken Cao Cao can fill that void, or at least be on Liu Bei’s level, but I’ve learned to not get my expectations up when it comes to GungHo.
JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note
New Card Holding Tank
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There seems to be little doubt that Kaede is an elite leader and all the heart-cross leaders should enjoy destroying the endgame for a long time to come. |
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I’m curious how much Game8 and AppMedia’s ratings are based on Liu Bei’s co-op farming prowess as he seems to be a relatively weak solo endgame leader. |
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Ranked Sites: Game8 (A)
I think it’s a testament to Vritra’s power that he can be considered a strong leader despite his best leader pair being the outdated RSonia. I’m still not a huge fan of the double-color activation a la the awoken Greeks, but as an old Beelzebub-RSonia user, I’m tempted to try the team out if only because the sub pool is so damned strong now. |
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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 17
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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.
I’m seeing a bit too much green creep into the JP lists. Obviously, something must be wrong.
JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note
New Card Holding Tank
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Game8 initially placed her at A. Then S. Now SS. While they’re known for being notoriously bad at rating brand new cards, I’ll give them a pass here since it took a couple days for people to truly grasp how broken the updated heart-cross mechanic had become. If you think GungHo made a mistake with Ra Dragon and Xiang Mei, the new heart-cross might be even worse than that. It doesn’t help that the three foremost leads that it’s on — Kaede, Sumire and Miru — all give the user copious amounts of time to combo, meaning even scrubs like me can use them effectively. Personally, Kaede’s been one of my favorite cards since she was released. I wasn’t expecting her to get a buff quite like this, but at least now it should be much easier easier to find friends for her. |
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Ranked Sites: Game8 (A+)
I didn’t think there was that much of a gap between Sumire and Kaede; Kaede seems stronger due her higher damage, but I didn’t think there was one tier in between them like Game8 has it. After all, does damage really make that much of a difference when you’re nigh unkillable? I guess we’ll see where the other lists go with her in the coming week or so. |
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Liu Bei never struck me as an elite leader as the active-reliance limits what he can do. While not a great measure of aptitude, the lack of Arena 2 clears on YouTube has me worried. He’s obviously a great co-op farming leader when combined with Dios subs, but don’t think that warranst his current place on the Game8 and AppMedia lists. |
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Miru’s the strongest non-co-op lead we’ve gotten in a long time and it will probably remain that way for a while just off the back of the heart-cross. |
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I’m not sure why Game8 ranked her where they did, even if it was in their lowest tier. Adding gods into her sub pool is a big upgrade compared to the original, but changing her RCV multiplier to HP seems like a slight downgrade. Regardless, of what I think, I’m interested to see where the other lists put her, if they do at all. |
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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 16
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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.
The new uevos revealed in yesterday’s JP stream release today so they aren’t included. Although I’m not entirely sure any of them will have a huge impact on the leader lists.
JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note
New Card Holding Tank
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GameWith is the only site that hasn’t added Xiu Min so far and it’s hard to predict if they will. If he doesn’t catch on stronger, it wouldn’t surprise me to see him get buffs like Xin Hua just did, but, to be honest, I think he’s strong enough as-is. Although I also thought that about Xin Hua despite her pitiful sub base, so what do I know? |
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Ranked Sites: Game8 (A)
I think a good point of reference for Bastet Ace is You Yu. Bastet Ace tops out at 144x while You Yu is at 156.25x. However, it’s more realistic for Bastet Ace to top out at 81x for eight combos or maybe 110.25x for nine as getting 10 combos isn’t always possible. Comparatively, it’s not always possible for You Yu to have a match-five and three other water matches on top of it, but given the correct orb changers it’s probably easier to consistently activate You Yu, especially when considering the average player’s skill. Bastet Ace is down an awakening and missing quite a few stats, but is still quite respectable when compared to a 300k MP card. It’s also been a while since wood received some good TPA subs while water seems to have gotten plenty in the recent months, although uevo Kaede could possibly help. Considering all his deficiencies compared to You Yu and the competitiveness of the current tier lists, I think Game8’s A rating is fair. I’ll be interesting to see where the other lists put him, if they do at all. |
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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 15
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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.
Once again I’m going to mail this in. MP cards? 6-star GFEs? Yawn.
JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note
New Card Holding Tank
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This version of Sherias seems legit, with all three lists giving him a decent ranking. My wallet is thankful that he’s worse than Ra Dragon, or at least not significantly better. |
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As a fan of row teams, Xiu Min appeals to me much more than You Yu, but I’ll concede that pairing You Yu’s ridiculous multiplier with skyfall boosting cards like Scheat and Hermes makes him better overall. |
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Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S-)
I watched Reco stream this team and I wasn’t impressed. This version is definitely better than the original dark, though. Being able to consistently use his active via hastes really increases the consistency of the team, but being so active hungry limits what can actually be accomplished. |
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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 14
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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.
Going to keep the comments short this time. The most notable change this time is GameWith updating their list to factor in multiplayer, meaning MZeus and MHera debut on the list proper, but leads like Sephiroth also get a boost.
JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note
New Card Holding Tank
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Ranked Sites: Game8 (S)
110x ATK and 2.25x RCV for dragons sounds pretty strong, especially since DKali and the now seemingly ubiquitous Orochi qualify for the team. In spite of the god killer and superior active, he’s still worse than Ra Dragon due to the lack of bind immunity. |
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