JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 22

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: Liu Bei ❀➞3
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
1
2972 - 碧地の風龍喚士・Kaede
2
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2969 - 星刻の時龍契士・Miru
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
3
2971 - 藍海の水龍喚士・Sumire
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
2920 - Godlike Chivalrous Thief, Robin Hood
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
1955 - Awoken Lakshmi
2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
1956 - Awoken Parvati
2814 - Library Room's Manager God, Kali
2929 - Moonlit Feline Goddess Armor, Ace
2389 - Awoken Sakuya
2904 - Awoken Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
2662 - Awoken Pandora
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera

Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.


For the first time a while, I was ready to do this post on Saturday, but I was waiting on Pad Plus to update their popularity list. Turns out they were actually on time, but they slightly changed things so my script wasn’t picking up the latest page. Then they also slightly changed their format so I had to update scrape script.

JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card Notes
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
Change: ❀➞3

This change is due to GameWith adding him to their SS tier. To be perfectly honest, it’s puzzling why he wasn’t there earlier, considering their list also factors co-op.

New Card Holding Tank

New cards will be held here temporarily in an attempt to isolate the aggregate list from knee-jerk ratings.
Card Notes
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
Ranked Sites: Game8 (SS), Game8 Co-op (S), GameWith (S), AppMedia (S+), PadPlus (1)

The consensus seems to be that she’s very strong, but not on Kaede’s level. I don’t think anyone would disagree with that. All other comparisons aside, in practice she’s certainly inferior since she doesn’t have as much movement time as Kaede or Miru. Player skill has never been a stated criteria for these lists, but I’d be surprised if that didn’t play a role in her judgment.

2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
Ranked Sites: Game8 (S), GameWith (SS), AppMedia (S+), PadPlus (2)

Perhaps to many people’s surprise, Ronove is doing about as well as Gremory in these lists. While the rainbow + heart-cross playstyle might sound intimidating, unlike Gremory, Ronove’s team has plenty of time extends. And, as stated last week, his active is much stronger than it looks in text.

2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), Game8 Co-op (S), GameWith Farming (S), PadPlus (9)

There’s been much talk about how good Cao Cao actually is, but at least from the aggregate’s perspective, Game8 appears to be the outlier. We’ll see where he lands when he leaves the holding tank next week.

3019 - 流浪人, Himura Kenshin
Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S+)

2916x ATK sounds quite impressive, but when you see the team in practice, the damage numbers aren’t as big as you might think (still large, but I was expecting way more). Mainly because your combo count is so low and the only offensive awakening you can consistently take advantage of are OEs. However, I guess saying 8+ digits of damage is “low” just reflects how ridiculous teams are nowadays. Perhaps I’ll be more impressed once JP gets to play with the cards themselves instead of just watching a demo; I’ll reserve judgment until then.

3033 - 新撰組三番隊組長, Saito Hajime
Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S+)

Saito sure looks great on paper, but it’s hard to judge a card just by that. As with Kenshin, I’ll be waiting for videos out of JP.


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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 21

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: Xiang Mei 1➞2, Ra Dragon 1➞2, Sherias Roots 1➞2, Oda Nobunaga added to 2, You Yu 2➞3, Robin Hood added to 3, Rukia 3➞❀, Pandora 3➞❀, Yomi Dragon 3➞❀, Neptune Dragon removed from ❀, Yuna removed from ❀
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
1
2972 - 碧地の風龍喚士・Kaede
2
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
2259 - Sun God, Ra Dragon
2943 - Destroying Wing Dragon Emperor, Sherias Roots
2969 - 星刻の時龍契士・Miru
2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
3
2971 - 藍海の水龍喚士・Sumire
2758 - Blue Bamboo Virtue, You Yu
2920 - Godlike Chivalrous Thief, Robin Hood
2505 - Awoken Astaroth
2528 - Awoken Machine Zeus
2507 - Awoken Archdemon Lucifer
2765 - One-Winged Angel, Sephiroth
2253 - Destroyer God, Shiva Dragon
1955 - Awoken Lakshmi
2679 - Asst Capt of 13th Squad, Rukia Kuchiki
1956 - Awoken Parvati
2903 - Awoken Liu Bei
2814 - Library Room's Manager God, Kali
2929 - Moonlit Feline Goddess Armor, Ace
2389 - Awoken Sakuya
2904 - Awoken Da Qiao & Xiao Qiao
2662 - Awoken Pandora
2261 - God of the Night, Tsukuyomi Dragon
2526 - Awoken Machine Hera

Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.


Sorry for the delay, busy holiday weekend and all. However, it turns out that the wait was somewhat of a good thing as now I’m able to incorporate GameWith’s latest changes, namely the addition of an SSS-tier (sigh). It’s actually problematic when a site adds a new, top tier. The main reason is that I weighted cards in their old top tier as a 1 out of 1, but now that there’s a new top tier, how much do I devalue those cards? For now, I think the new weights I chose work, but there may be some transition in the future as I try to balance things out.

JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card Notes
2756 - Crimson Orchid Virtue, Xiang Mei
Change: 1➞2

Xiang Mei represents all the old tier-1 cards (Ra Dragon, Sherias Roots) that got bumped down due to GameWith’s new SSS-tier. There’s little doubt in my mind that Kaede is the undisputed best lead in the game, with only maybe Gremory able to occupy the same space. It’s always sad to see old leaders drop, especially when they’re still amazing, but that’s just the way tier lists work.

2924 - Rebellious Demon, Oda Nobunaga
Change: Added to 2

No surprise here.

2920 - Godlike Chivalrous Thief, Robin Hood
Change: Added to 3

This placement in tier-3 seems correct as Robin Hood is extremely powerful, but not quite up to Nobunaga’s level.

New Card Holding Tank

New cards will be held here temporarily in an attempt to isolate the aggregate list from knee-jerk ratings.
Card Notes
2999 - 冥瞳の魔神爵, Gremory
Ranked Sites: Game8 (SS), Game8 Co-op (S), GameWith (S), AppMedia (SS), PadPlus (15)

Compared to fellow heart-crosser Kaede, Gremory losses some defensive power (58% vs. 75%), but gains much in return, namely a 144x multiplier and bind immunity. True, her leader skill restricts her sub pool, but dark has no problems supplying quality devils and the inclusion of balanced types adds cards like Xin Hua and Typhon to the mix. Her major downside compared to Kaede is her active skill’s lack of haste, meaning there’s no possibility of a “system”; systems are generally overrated, but in the case of things like the heart-crossers and Xiang Mei, the consistency brings near-invulnerability with it. Game8 and AppMedia seem to agree that she’s on Kaede’s level, but GameWith doesn’t; I’m curious to see where she ends up when her time in the holding tank is up.

2995 - 爆叫の魔伯爵, Ronove
Ranked Sites: Game8 (S), GameWith (B), AppMedia (S)

Ronove may not be as good as Kaede or Gremory, but it’s likely he’s being underrated, just like Sumire (and Miru before her). I initially thought his active skill was complete trash beyond serving as a base for skill inheritance. However, after watching this video by Paprika, it becomes apparent that it’s quite strong, especially when used in conjunction with Ragnarok Dragon and Kaede, and only gets better the more hazard orbs a dungeon spawns. Of course, a player of Paprika’s skill level would make any leader seem amazing, but even though the color requirement on top of the heart-cross seems like a steep slope to climb for most players, it’s hard to deny that Ronove is quite strong.

2901 - Awoken Cao Cao
Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), Game8 Co-op (S)

Game8 must be out of their minds. First, yes, Cao Cao is a strong leader. However, tier lists only care about the strongest cards and their relative placement. In this regard, can Cao Cao really be compared to the likes of Sumire, You Yu and Nobunaga? And I don’t know, but Ronove looks pretty damned strong, too. There’s always a chance that I’m underrating Cao Cao — I did the same thing with his split uevo about a year ago and look how good he turned out being — but I just don’t think he’s up to snuff with the other leaders in the same tier. So far Game8 is the only site that rated him, but we’ll see where he winds up once he’s released from the tank.

3069 - 聖徳の麗女神・Sarasvati
Ranked Sites: GameWith (B)

Sarasvati is no You Yu, but the fact that a uuevo can even be compared to an MP card means it’s pretty impressive. I don’t expect the other sites to follow suit with GameWith — the bar to make these lists is so high at this point — but it’d be nice to see her sneak into the lower tiers. I’m personally a big Sarasvati fan and plan on using her in the future.


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