JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 32

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: Kinnikuman added to 2, Akuma Shogun added to ❀
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier

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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.

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Another dull week. As much as all the new leaders are new and different, they can’t overcome the heart-cross’s stranglehold on the meta. I’m really looking forward to playing with some of the new cards, the Wisdom Kings in particular. Acala being the most appealing for various reasons beyond pure strength (how I can I say no to a wood cutie with a light saber and three time extends?).

JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card	Notes
	Change: Added to 2 This seems about right. I’ll say what I’ve been saying for the past few weeks, though: I really have no idea how to judge this new mechanic without playing it myself.

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Card	Notes
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (A) They really went all-out with the Indian 2 uuevos. 2.25/45.56/2.25 is pretty damned nice and makes Uzume’s awoken look silly by comparison. For those on NA looking for a tanky leader that doesn’t use heart-crosses, this will probably be the best we get.
	Ranked Sites: Game8 Co-op (S) I usually don’t list co-op cards here, but I thought it was worth pointing out that Ganesha is pretty insane and will probably be as sought-after as Liu Bei if not more so. Sure, Monday dungeon is a thing, but that doesn’t apply to the average player as going for pure rank EXP is such an inefficient use of resources. What he can do for every player is reduce the time between rank-up stamina refreshes when farming low-end dungeons. Biweeklies, skill up carnivals and collab dungeons all come to mind, but even something like Mechdragons on 20x gets boosted to about 1,700 exp/stam; that’s better than Zaerog∞. It’s time to dust off your Nazca and Wangrens and the like.

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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 31

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: You Yu 3➞❀, Lakshmi removed from ❀, Robin Hood removed from ❀, Astaroth removed from ❀, DQXQ removed from ❀
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier

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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.

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Not much to say this week. Kinnikuman didn’t really shake things up as much as its multipliers might’ve suggested. For the most part, the top three tiers have solidified their placements with only three of top 13 being non-heart-cross leads. This isn’t a problem per say, but GungHo really does need to make an alternative playstyle that’s viable at the highest levels if only for variety’s sake. It does feel like new cards (read: GFEs) might get introduced with the next JP godfest, though, and it should be interesting to see if they adapt any of the technology Kinnikuman and Khepri have pioneered.

JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card	Notes
	Change: Removed from ❀ It seems like I’ve hard to mourn Lakshmi’s removal from the tier lists an inordinate amount of times. I guess it’s nice GungHo is always willing to throw her a buff now and them, but it’s still always a sad time to see her slowly fall off the lists. Considering the competition, I guess I can’t complain too much.
	Change: Removed from ❀ RIP the last generation of non-tank leads. You were the victim of horrible timing and didn’t get nearly enough time to shine.

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Card	Notes
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (AA), GameWith (S), AppMedia (SS), PadPlus (1) GameWith and AppMedia both downgraded him, placing him closer to Game8’s original rating (which didn’t budge from last week). With the collab now over, it’s time to see if this style of play worked out how GungHo intended and if it did, brace ourselves for the inevitable GFEs that will replicate these types of leader skills.

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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 30

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: Armored Batman added to 2, Sherias Roots 2➞3, Typhon Ana 2➞3, Dantalion 3➞❀, AD Lucifer 3➞❀, Oda Nobunaga 3➞❀, Cao Cao removed from ❀, Kenshin removed from ❀, Rukia removed from ❀, Summer Lakshmi removed from ❀
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier

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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.

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Despite the Kinnikuman cards looking completely bonkers, it doesn’t look like the game is ruined. At least not more than it was already. Or maby the lists are just wrong. From what little I’ve seen, though, I don’t think they’re too far off.

Pad-Plus also decided to grace us with a popularity list this week, meaning they’ve only missed two of the last four. Hopefully them skipping weeks doesn’t become a trend; I mean, that page must be auto-generated so how hard can it be to pump it out every week?

JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card	Notes
	Change: 2➞3 I was always a bit surprised at the love Sherias Roots got and after being able to play with him a bit, this downgrade doesn’t surprise me. Despite Ragnarok Dragon being an amazing sub, it just seems like you get so much more out of Kaede and Myr for less effort.
	Change: 2➞3 It does seem that Typhon Ana is weaker than Gremory and Batman, if only for the weaker active.

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Card	Notes
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (AA), GameWith (SS), AppMedia (SSS), PadPlus (1) He didn’t make either Game8’s or GameWith’s top tier. It looks like their main point of contention is the severe weakness to combo shields. This is a fair criticism, but at the very least I think Game8 is underrating him as his good points more than make up for it. Anyways, it’s really hard for me to judge this playstyle without playing it hands-on — I had a similar problem with the heart-cross — so I’ll leave it to the JP sites for now.
	Ranked Sites: GameWith (A), PadPlus (2) Any weakness Kinnikuman might have, Akuma Shogun would appear to only amplify it. While I do think there’s some farming potential here, it feels like you might as well just use Liu Bei or Cao Cao instead.

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Collab REM Review – Rurouni Kenshin

Writing this review was a slog. The content delay is NA’s greatest advantage, but it’s also our greatest curse. With over a month having gone by since JP got these cards, we now know that most of them have amounted to very little. We can use that information to our advantage, but at the same time that knowledge kills the hype surrounding what would otherwise be an exciting event. It certainly made it difficult for me to put in the effort to do that extra research and subsequently write a review.

It’s hard for me to put that sentiment aside and be objective, but I do believe that this collab is mostly trash, as most collabs wind up being. Kenshin and Saito with their ridiculous cross-based multipliers are flashy, but as it goes with most collab cards, they’re simple testbeds that have been equaled or surpassed by subsequent, non-collab cards. The rest of the REM is fairly dismal, with a few cards having niche utility use, mostly for skill inheritance, but they’re not exactly must-haves. I think it says a lot when the most useful cards in the REM are silver, Kaoru and Kamatari. For most, it will be worth giving a small number of rolls since the silvers are good, but I wouldn’t recommend people go all-out unless they’re die hard fans as the top-end is poor.

Also, I usually never mention the farmables since that’s just more work for little return, but this time I strongly suggest picking up a Yukyuzan Anji from the collab dungeon. Even if you can’t spare the stamina to max skill him, make sure you remember to favorite him when you clear the dungeon for the stone; even with no skill ups he’s worth having around.

JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 29

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: Summer Myr added to 2, Typhon Ana 3➞2, Xiang Mei 2➞3, Ra Dragon 2➞3, Izanagi ❀➞3, Liu Bei removed from 3, Machine Zeus removed from 3, Sephiroth 3➞❀, Summer Lakshmi added to ❀, Pandora removed from ❀, Saito removed from ❀, Machine Hera removed from ❀
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier

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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.

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I’m not sure what’s up with Pad-Plus lately. I usually tried to make these posts on Saturdays or Sundays to coincide with them releasing their popularity results, but if they continue to be late or just don’t make the post at all, I’m considering moving the posts to Mondays in order to capture the potential release of collab card rankings.

Anyways, GameWith made some sweeping changes to their list, the top three tiers all being heart-crossers. I’m personally fine with this mechanic taking over the meta since I enjoy both the playstyle and the power level it brings, but I sympathize with anyone that’s already tired of it. They also removed the co-op-centric leads which is a welcome change.

JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card	Notes
	Change: 3➞2 It should come as no surprise that anything with a heart-cross and a decent ATK multiplier is taking over the meta. Typhon Ana — arguably one of the “worst” of the good ones — settling in at tier-2 should tell volumes about how dominant this mechanic is.
	Change: 2➞3 I’d like my MP and Flampys back, please. I think tier-3 is reasonable for her, but there are a few cards that look out of place alongside her: You Yu, Lucifer and Dantalion, while good, probably shouldn’t be on the same level. Xiang Mei’s playstyle might be boring, but she’s still incredibly powerful.
	Change: 2➞3 It’s been almost a year since Ra Dragon has been released and he’s still on this list. A pretty amazing investment for those that got in early. It makes me wonder if GungHo will ever buff the MP Dragons (or at least discount their MP cost) or will they all just eventually fall off the face of the earth.
	Change: ❀➞3 His buff from a 35% to 50% shield has been appropriately reflected in this update. Being a single tier below Myr is where he belongs.
	Change: Removed from 3 GameWith removed co-op leads from their list — including Liu Bei and MHera — which is something I can only be thankful for.
	Change: Removed from ❀ RIP.

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Ranked Sites: Game8 (S), GameWith (SS), AppMedia (S+) My main gripe about Batman is that his relatively low movement time will make the row + cross playstyle extremely difficult to execute for most players; I already have a hard enough time with it on Gremory and Batman teams will have at least one second less than her. However, taking skill out of the equation, he’s flat out stronger than Gremory or Typhon Ana.

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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 28

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: None
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier

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Pad-Plus appears to be back. Still not sure why they skipped last week, but they did change their format very slightly so maybe it has to do with that. Game8 also changed their co-op list to include leaders that are co-op-focused. This was a much needed improvement as the list now isn’t just a rehash of the solo list with a few co-op leaders scattered in. It’s also good to see MAthena getting some love.

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Card	Notes
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (S), GameWith (SS), AppMedia (SS), PadPlus (1) It should be noted that AppMedia is the only site that upgraded Myr after her upgrade to a 7.7x multiplier.
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (S) Armored Batman is now a 64x leader with a 75% heart-cross shield. He has an advantage over Gremory and Typhon Ana in that he has no type restrictions, but this doesn’t actually mean too much in practice as all the good heartmaking subs are devil, dragon or balanced anyways. Not supplying any time extends himself makes him more difficult to use.
	Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S), PadPlus (12) Seeing as AppMedia is the only site showing her some love, I don’t anticipate her making the list next week.

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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 27

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: Dantalion added to 3, Paimon added to 3, Typhon Ana added to 3, Artemis added to ❀, Balboa added to ❀, Izanagi added to ❀
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier

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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.

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JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card	Notes
	Change: Added to 3 The addition of Dantalion, Paimon and Typhon Ana solidifies the grip GFEs have on the current tier list, making up 4/7 of the top two tiers and 8/17 of the top three (8/15 if you exclude co-op leads Liu Bei and MZeus). Here’s hoping that the glut of new GFEs stops for a while; hell, I think most players might find a new MP series a refreshing change of pace, as myopic as that sounds. I’m curious how GungHo will handle pantheon cards going forward.
	Change: Added to ❀ This is an interesting time for the Balboa-Artemis pair to resurface, especially since it appeared on GameWith and AppMedia in the same week. My first instinct was to see if there was anything interesting on YouTube, but either there wasn’t or it was buried under the countless Natti videos. So maybe the reason is as simple as the buffs they recently received; the 2x ATK bonus for matching both wood and water was boosted to 3x, giving the team a robust 2/36/2. It also makes sense that Artemis was the only one to show up since neither Ares or Hermes have a respective Balboa to pair with (I wouldn’t count Cao Cao and Sun Quan) and Apollo and Persephone’s 2.25/20.25/2.25 isn’t nearly as impressive.

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Card	Notes
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (S), Game8 Co-op (S), GameWith (SS), AppMedia (S+) I don’t think anyone will argue this.
	Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S) Considering Awoken Lakshmi got minimal love on these lists, it should be no surprise that this form didn’t either. The addition of the heart-cross doesn’t justify the drop in damage output. I wouldn’t expect a top-tier lead to come out of a seasonal REM anyways (Miru being the exception).

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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 26

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: Astaroth 3➞❀, Cao Cao added to ❀, Shiva Dragon removed from ❀, Parvati removed from ❀, GKali removed from ❀, Sakuya removed from ❀
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier

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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.

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We’re missing the Summer REM cards, but Myr was likely the only card to make the lists, anyways. Lakshmi is interesting, but considering where Izanagi landed this week I’m not sure she’s good enough to make it.

JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card	Notes
	Change: 3➞❀ With so many new powerful leads being released, it should come as no surprise that the pre-cross old guard are slowly falling off the lists. It’s unfortunate that the days of pantheon gods being at the top of the lists has long since passed.
	Change: Added to ❀ Just when you thought he was dead, AppMedia adds him to their S-tier, good enough for him to show up on the aggregate list. As a side note, the revelation of Summer Goemon having two skill boosts should provide a small increase in his farming capabilities.
	Change: Removed from ❀ I almost never use Shiva Dragon anymore, but he’s still one of my most used leads of all time and probably the best MP purchase I ever made. He’d need huge buffs to regain relevancy in the age of co-op. Which begs the question: does GungHo have any plans to ever buff the MP Dragons?

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I’ve already gone over many of these leads in my last Quick Thoughts post. Much of what was said there is still relevant.

New cards will be held here temporarily in an attempt to isolate the aggregate list from knee-jerk ratings.

Card	Notes
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), Game8 Co-op (A), GameWith (A), AppMedia (S), PadPlus (5) From a high level, Dantalion is much like Kenshin; the main difference being that his active skill makes him system-ready, making him more consistent to play should you have that team. As far as glass cannons go, I prefer You Yu, but I’m not totally opposed to Dantalion’s current placement, but I do think he’ll fall off relatively soon. One thing of note is that at level 1, he has the highest RCV in the game (1285).
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), GameWith (A), AppMedia (S+), PadPlus (4) Paimon looks amazing on paper, but I haven’t been all that impressed with the few videos that have come out so far. Then again, I haven’t seen anyone release a full 6x Paimon video or even a 4x one, either. I do think he/she’s better than Dantalion, though (IRL lore aside, it does look like a dude upon further inspection).
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), AppMedia (S-) Izanagi is the cross leader to come from a standard pantheon. As expected, he’s basically a bad Myr. The RCV is intriguing, but for the most part Myr is stronger due to the increased movement time and bind immunity.

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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 25

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: Kenshin added to ❀, Saito added to ❀, Cao Cao removed from ❀
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier

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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.

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Kinda strapped for time, so the comments will be short, once again.

JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card	Notes
	Change: Removed from ❀ Totally didn’t see this one coming… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Card	Notes
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (S), Game8 Co-op (S) Her buff to include balanced types on top of dragons makes her quite powerful, allowing her to utilize Xin Hua on top of powerful dragons like Yomi Dragon. YamaP hinting that more dark balanced types will be released is also promising. Even if there weren’t, the pending Akechi sub uuevo will still be amazing even if he doesn’t qualify for the full bonus. She doesn’t have the burst potential of Gremory, but those that already have Typhon will feel less pressure to roll yet another 6-star to get in on the heart-cross action in dark.
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (A) This shouldn’t be a surprise. Even if matching multiple crosses isn’t the easiest thing to do, her top-end potential can’t be denied. For Game8, I think this is a pretty fair placement for a brand new card and I’m curious where the other lists will put her. Unfortunately I haven’t had the time to research her, but I’ll try to do that in the coming week.

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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 24

JP Aggregate Leader List

Changes from last time: Robin Hood 3➞❀, Sarasvati added to ❀
Legend: Popular on Pad-Plus, ❀: Honorable Mention Tier

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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is basically a compilation of the leader tier lists from three JP PAD sites: Game8, GameWith and AppMedia. The idea is that while a single tier list can have many points of contention, hopefully an aggregate can kind of smooth things over (it doesn’t, really, but it helps a bit). I try to keep my hands off the results as much as possible; the extent of my involvement is setting the algorithm to aggregate the results. I wish I could be fully hands off, but as none of the lists have 1:1 correlation in their grades, I have to have that much involvement. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.

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Not much to say this week.

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Card	Notes
	Ranked Sites: Game8 Co-op (A), AppMedia (S+), PadPlus (1) I said my piece on this last week. At this point, I don’t see him or Saito breaking into any of the other tier lists.
	Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S+), PadPlus (3) See Kenshin.

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