JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 57 (Updated/Fixed)

Posted on March 20, 2017 by setsu

JP Aggregate Leader List

**Changes from last time**: Aizen 1➞2, Astaroth 2➞3, Izanagi 3➞❀, Saito added to ❀, Dantalion removed from ❀, Haku removed from ❀
**Legend**: ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is an average of the tier lists from multiple JP gaming sites. It is compiled automatically by a script. I endeavor to have as little influence on the results as possible. Feel free to refer to the FAQ. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.

Updated to reflect Game8’s recent change. I also tweaked the scoring weights for Game8’s list to compensate for their relatively small list. Now a card needs to be in the top tiers of two of the three lists to be tier-1.

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	Ranked Sites: Game8 (S), AppMedia (S-)
	Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S)
	Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S)
	Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S)
	Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S)

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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 57

Posted on March 19, 2017 by setsu

JP Aggregate Leader List

**Changes from last time**: Ra Dragon 1➞2, Izanagi 3➞❀, Saito added to ❀, Dantalion removed from ❀, Haku removed from ❀
**Legend**: ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
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JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card

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Change: 1➞2

The way the aggregate is currently determined, for a card to be in the top tier it has to be in the top tier of all the constituent lists. This scheme wouldn’t work if all the sub-lists wildly disagreed on what were the top leads in the game, but for the year plus I’ve made these posts it’s worked. Seeing as Game8 has bumped Ra Dragon out of their top tier, he also drops in the aggregate. Some may question what they’re thinking, but I think they’re stressing both consistency and magnitude of damage in the current endgame defined by Arena 3 and Colosseum; not only for burst, but also on “trash” floors where you can’t be bothered to pop an active. Game8 has historically been bold with moves like this, but they’ve generally been correct. However, I do believe if GungHo were to shake things up with a new endgame dungeon that their list would be in store for a reasonable shake up.

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Card	Notes
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), AppMedia (S)
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), AppMedia (S-)
	Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S)
	Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S)
	Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S)

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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 56

Posted on March 12, 2017 by setsu

JP Aggregate Leader List

**Changes from last time**: Astaroth 3➞2, Ronove 2➞3, Julie ❀➞3, Krishna 3➞❀
**Legend**: ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
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Disclaimer: The aggregate list is an average of the tier lists from multipler JP gaming sites. It is compiled automatically by a script. I endeavor to have as little influence on the results as possible. Feel free to refer to the FAQ. Don’t take these ratings as fact; I encourage you to simply take them as a starting point for discussion to figure out which leads are actually the best for your specific situation.

JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card	Notes
	Change: 3➞2 A revo at tier 2? What a time to be alive.

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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 55

Posted on March 5, 2017 by setsu

JP Aggregate Leader List

**Changes from last time**: Aizen 2➞1, Dark Athena 2➞1, Uruka added to 2, Astaroth added to 3, Anubis ❀➞3, Christmas Gremory 3➞❀, Typhon Ana 3➞❀, Julie added to ❀, Ilmina added to ❀, Haku added to ❀, Minerva removed from ❀, Raijin removed from ❀, Noctis removed from ❀
**Legend**: ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
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Much of this week’s movement is due to Game8’s restructuring where they eliminated both the SSS and B tiers from their list. Somewhat surprisingly, only a few cards were actually dropped from the aggregate as a result.

JP Aggregate Leader List Changes of Note

Card	Notes
	Change: 2➞1 I’ve actually been playing my JP alt much more than my NA accounts and DAthena is the reason why. The team just feels so busted that it feels silly playing NA. Even if Aizen and Ra Dragon are similarly busted, I feel that DAthena addresses all problem Arena 3 floors elegantly and quickly. After being able to play all three leads firsthand, I can say that I wholeheartedly agree with the change to make them all tier-1 choices.
	Change: Added to 3 I was a little skeptical about Astaroth last week, but I did see some potential. After watching some more videos, I think she’s being a little underestimated in the aggregate. I think Game8 has it right by having her in their second best tier. There’s still a huge gap between her and the big three, and sometimes I have trouble seeing beyond that, but I do like her abilities quite a bit.
	Change: ❀➞3 Similar to Astaroth, I think Anubis is being slightly underestimated.

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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 54

Posted on February 25, 2017 by setsu

JP Aggregate Leader List

**Changes from last time**: Summer Myr 2➞3, Kaede 2➞3, Izanagi ❀➞3, New Year’s Yomi 3➞❀, Yomi Dragon 3➞❀, Dantalion added to ❀, Neptune Dragon removed from ❀, Artemis removed from ❀, Balboa removed from ❀, Fujin removed from ❀, Ceres removed from ❀, New Year’s Kanna removed from ❀, Ushio & Tora removed from ❀, Sherias Roots removed from ❀, Halloween Sonia Gran removed from ❀, Armored Batman removed from ❀
**Legend**: ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
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Card	Notes
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (SS), AppMedia (SS), Altema (SS) I was skeptical of Uruka at first, but after watching a few videos, it’s hard to deny her power. Perhaps her biggest draw is her ability to raise the consistency of color-match leads with her 7×6 board which is particularly good for middle-tier ones like Kaworu Kali and Rei Myr. The added bonus being you don’t have to roll Uruka herself to benefit. I’ve never been a fan of 7×6 boards, but I’m eager to try her out on NA to see if she can change my opinion.
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), Altema (A) Julie(?) is a leader that benefited greatly from her evo, getting an offensive bump up from 36x to 56.25x. This makes her a 2.25/56.25/1 leader with a 43.75% shield which is a good combination of offensive and tankiness not all that far off from something like Myr. Of course, the usual complaints of bind vulnerability and killer damage control cap her potential. Still, she’s arguably the best actual water lead in the game, rivaling Summer Myr, and one of the best to take advantage of water’s growing TPA sub base.
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (A), AppMedia (S-) Unlike Uruka, I’m not as optimistic about Ilmina. There’s a big difference between 4.5x and 6x and Uruka’s more demanding activation isn’t as much of a drawback on a 7×6 board. Despite that, Ilmina is still pretty great and, as with her base form, should see some amusing pairings with cross leaders, the updated uevo Kenshin likely being the most relevant of those available to NA. Pairing a ridiculous multiplier with a 43.75% shield seems pretty good.
	Ranked Sites: Game8 (A) After playing revo Haku firsthand, I can say she’s very strong, although I think Game8 probably has her a little overrated relative to the rest of their list. She’s basically a much worse DAthena, but that is still a pretty good place to be. While Haku can compete with DAthena’s tankiness and ease of activation, the lower damage and lack of bind immunity are obvious shortcomings. The 7-combo awakening and strong TPA subs bring enough damage for most situations, but it isn’t something you’d want to face a Radar with. Being able to fully utilize uevo Satsuki is quite nice, but despite the quad TPAs she does damage similar to the leads or a DAthena sub and the devil killer is a liability. Having to dedicate a sub slot to bind utility doesn’t hurt as much since activation is so consistent, but is still a drawback when much of the current meta is based around saving actives over long dungeons to deal with those 2-3 problem floors. Despite this, I’m happy to see finally see revos creep into the fringes of the tier lists; hopefully future ones will have a similar power level.
	Ranked Sites: AppMedia (S), Altema (A) I’ve been spoiled by today’s top leads. After watching a few Astaroth videos, all I could think of was the amount of effort you had to put into her activation. Six wood orbs usually results in about one million damage per sub so you almost always have to use an active to burst. It’s funny how that is thought of as high effort nowadays, but Aizen and DAthena are just that ridiculous. Comparisons aside, Astaroth looks to have quite a few things going for her this time around. Being bind immune is always huge, but my biggest complaint previously was a shallow sub pool with very few time extends. Well, not only does Astaroth have one herself, but Romia can serve the role of TE stick while also supplying an board change that is compatible with Astaroth’s orb change.
	Ranked Sites: Altema (A) I was a bit surprised to see Elgenubi appear on even the fringes of any list. A 2.25/36/2.25 line is not bad. Until you factor in the machine restriction and match-five activation.

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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 53

Posted on February 19, 2017 by setsu

JP Aggregate Leader List

**Changes from last time**: Meridionalis 3➞❀, Shiva Dragon removed from ❀, Ichigo removed from ❀
**Legend**: ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
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Altema reworked their list, but it didn’t affect the aggregate list too much.

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Card	Notes
	Ranked Sites: AppMedia (SS), Altema (S) I’ve only had a chance to watch a handful of videos. I wasn’t overly impressed. I’ll take a deeper look once I get more time.

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JP Aggregate Leader List: Week 52

Posted on February 12, 2017 by setsu

JP Aggregate Leader List

**Changes from last time**: Vegito added to 3, Meridionalis ❀➞3, Acala ❀➞3, Ilm ❀➞3, Typhon Ana ❀➞3, Sesshoumaru added to 3, Yomi Dragon ❀➞3, Sumire removed from ❀, Neptune removed from ❀
**Legend**: ❀: Honorable Mention Tier
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GameWith was removed from the aggregate due to them changing to a ranking list format. I’ll be looking into replacements, but don’t expect that to happen soon as I don’t have much time to update the script. Most movement was due to their removal with Vegito and Sesshoumaru being the only notable additions since then.

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Godfest Help Post: 1/14-1/15

Posted on January 13, 2017 by setsu

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon-combinations. Grades do not factor co-op or skill inheritance at this time.
Godfest: Heroes & Egypt 2 1/14, Norse & Sengoku 1/15
Criteria		Day 1		Day 2
		Heroes	Egypt 2	Norse	Sengoku
Leader	Individual	B	B-	B+	B
	Combined	B		B+
Sub	Individual	A+	C-	B	A-
	Combined	B		A-
Overall	Individual	A-	C	B+	B+
	Combined	B		A-

This is a help thread, so please feel free to ask questions on just about anything concerning the godfest or your teams, box and progress in general.

It’s been over two months since my last help thread. I’m looking to keep the question count low while I settle back in, but let’s see if there’s any interest in the first place.

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Godfest Help Post: 9/17-9/18

Posted on September 16, 2016 by setsu

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon combinations.
Godfest: Chinese & Greek 9/17, Heroes & Egypt 2 9/18
Criteria		Day 1		Day 2
		Chinese	Greek	Heroes	Egypt 2
Leader	Individual	B	B+	B+	B-
	Combined	B+		B
Sub	Individual	B+	B+	A+	C
	Combined	B+		B
Overall	Individual	B	B+	A	C+
	Combined	B+		B

This is a help thread, so please feel free to ask questions on just about anything concerning the godfest or your teams, box and progress in general.

Please read the rules before posting, especially if this is your first time:

I will only take box questions that supply a PADherder. It makes it much, much easier for me to give good advice this way (you could say I can’t give good advice without the sorting options). Try PadListener to sync if you’re on Android (if it works for you), otherwise use this method.
Box/roll questions that don’t supply rank, IAP status and main teams will be ignored. Any other information you want to supply will only help.
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Godfest Help Post: 6/30-7/1

Posted on June 29, 2016 by setsu

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon combinations.
Godfest: Three Kingdoms & Egypt 2 6/30, Sengoku & Norse 7/1
Criteria		Day 1		Day 2
		Three Kingdoms	Egypt 2	Sengoku	Norse
Leader	Individual	B+	B	B-	A
	Combined	B+		B+
Sub	Individual	B+	B-	B	B+
	Combined	B		B+
Overall	Individual	B+	B-	B	A-
	Combined	B+		B+

This is a help thread, so please feel free to ask questions on just about anything concerning the godfest or your teams, box and progress in general.

This thread has become increasingly difficult to manage. I’ve thought it over, but I think the current system is the best considering I can’t modify any of the software on this site, the base WordPress comments offers no sort of moderator support and I want to allow anonymous comments for as long as possible. An external tool is not appealing, either. So the only thing that will change going forward is that rule breakers will have their comments removed, without warning. If it turns out too many people are breaking the rules, I’ll reevaluate how to manage this thread in the future, but for the most part people have been great so I don’t anticipate that.

Anyways, here are the rules. Please read the rules before posting, especially if this is your first time:

I will only take box questions that supply a PADherder. It makes it much, much easier for me to give good advice this way (you could say I can’t give good advice without the sorting options). Try PadListener to sync if you’re on Android (if it works for you), otherwise use this method.
Box/roll questions that don’t supply rank, IAP status and main teams will be ignored. Any other information you want to supply will only help.
Please check the FAQ after the break before asking a question. Questions that aren’t covered by the FAQ will be prioritized; questions that don’t may be ignored.
WordPress flags comments with multiple links. I still get the comment, I just have to approve it manually for it to show up on the site. So if your comment doesn’t show up, this might be the case. Ideally, only post a single link to your PADherder.
I generally reply on a first come, first serve basis, but if there’s a low hanging fruit I’ll address that first.
I will post a comment in bold red when I stop taking questions for the day or end the post altogether. Please look for and respect these cutoffs before posting! I’ll allow questions after the day 1 cutoff to queue up for the next day, but no new questions will be taken after the day 2 cutoff.
No new questions will be taken after the godfest ends. Questions asked in other posts may be ignored; please wait for the next godfest!
Follow-ups to existing questions will be taken as long as the post is still open for comments.
I’ll close the post for comments a few hours after the godfest ends.
Any comments breaking the rules will be removed without warning.