Godfest Help Post: 1/14-1/15

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon-combinations. Grades do not factor co-op or skill inheritance at this time.

Godfest: Heroes & Egypt 2 1/14, Norse & Sengoku 1/15
Criteria		Day 1		Day 2
		Heroes	Egypt 2	Norse	Sengoku
Leader	Individual	B	B-	B+	B
	Combined	B		B+
Sub	Individual	A+	C-	B	A-
	Combined	B		A-
Overall	Individual	A-	C	B+	B+
	Combined	B		A-

This is a help thread, so please feel free to ask questions on just about anything concerning the godfest or your teams, box and progress in general.

It’s been over two months since my last help thread. I’m looking to keep the question count low while I settle back in, but let’s see if there’s any interest in the first place.

I now auto-generate most of this post. If there are any bugs, including display issues in non-Chrome browsers, please let me know. Thanks!

Please read the rules before posting, especially if this is your first time:

• I will only take box questions that supply a PADherder. It makes it much, much easier for me to give good advice this way (you could say I can’t give good advice without the sorting options). Try PadListener to sync if you’re on Android (if it works for you), otherwise use this method.
• Box/roll questions that don’t supply rank, IAP status and main teams will be ignored. Any other information you want to supply will only help.
• Please check the FAQ after the break before asking a question. Questions that aren’t covered by the FAQ will be prioritized; questions that don’t may be ignored.
• I have WordPress set to flag comments with multiple links to combat spam. I still get the comment, I just have to approve it manually for it to show up on the site. So if your comment doesn’t show up, this might be the case. Ideally, only post a single link to your PADherder.
• I generally reply on a first come, first serve basis, but if there’s a low hanging fruit I’ll address that first.
• I will post thread status as bold red comments. Make sure you read these comments before posting to make sure you aren’t violating the rules. I’m no longer segregating comments by day, instead I’ll indicate how many questions I be able to take for a given thread in the first status comment, then stop taking new ones after that.
• No new questions will be taken after the godfest ends. Questions asked in other posts may be ignored; please wait for the next godfest!
• Follow-ups to existing questions will be taken as long as the post is still open for comments.
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• Any comments breaking the rules will be removed without warning.

Godfest Help Post: 9/30-10/1

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon combinations.

Godfest: Indian 1 & Three Kingdoms 9/30, Japanese 1 & Norse 10/1
Criteria		Day 1		Day 2
		Indian 1	Three Kingdoms	Japanese 1	Norse
Leader	Individual	B+	A-	C+	B+
	Combined	A		B
Sub	Individual	B-	B+	B+	B
	Combined	B		B+
Overall	Individual	B	A-	B-	B+
	Combined	A-		B

Wow, we actually get a decent notice this time? Amazing.

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This is a help thread, so please feel free to ask questions on just about anything concerning the godfest or your teams, box and progress in general.

Please read the rules before posting, especially if this is your first time:

• I will only take box questions that supply a PADherder. It makes it much, much easier for me to give good advice this way (you could say I can’t give good advice without the sorting options). Try PadListener to sync if you’re on Android (if it works for you), otherwise use this method.
• Box/roll questions that don’t supply rank, IAP status and main teams will be ignored. Any other information you want to supply will only help.
• Please check the FAQ after the break before asking a question. Questions that aren’t covered by the FAQ will be prioritized; questions that don’t may be ignored.
• I have WordPress set to flag comments with multiple links to combat spam. I still get the comment, I just have to approve it manually for it to show up on the site. So if your comment doesn’t show up, this might be the case. Ideally, only post a single link to your PADherder.
• I generally reply on a first come, first serve basis, but if there’s a low hanging fruit I’ll address that first.
• I will post thread status as bold red comments. Make sure you read these comments before posting to make sure you aren’t violating the rules. I’m no longer segregating comments by day, instead I’ll indicate how many questions I be able to take for a given thread in the first status comment, then stop taking new ones after that.
• No new questions will be taken after the godfest ends. Questions asked in other posts may be ignored; please wait for the next godfest!
• Follow-ups to existing questions will be taken as long as the post is still open for comments.
• I’ll close the post for comments a few hours after the godfest ends.
• Any comments breaking the rules will be removed without warning.

Godfest Help Post: 6/30-7/1

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon combinations.

Godfest: Three Kingdoms & Egypt 2 6/30, Sengoku & Norse 7/1
Criteria		Day 1		Day 2
		Three Kingdoms	Egypt 2	Sengoku	Norse
Leader	Individual	B+	B	B-	A
	Combined	B+		B+
Sub	Individual	B+	B-	B	B+
	Combined	B		B+
Overall	Individual	B+	B-	B	A-
	Combined	B+		B+

This is a help thread, so please feel free to ask questions on just about anything concerning the godfest or your teams, box and progress in general.

This thread has become increasingly difficult to manage. I’ve thought it over, but I think the current system is the best considering I can’t modify any of the software on this site, the base WordPress comments offers no sort of moderator support and I want to allow anonymous comments for as long as possible. An external tool is not appealing, either. So the only thing that will change going forward is that rule breakers will have their comments removed, without warning. If it turns out too many people are breaking the rules, I’ll reevaluate how to manage this thread in the future, but for the most part people have been great so I don’t anticipate that.

Anyways, here are the rules. Please read the rules before posting, especially if this is your first time:

• I will only take box questions that supply a PADherder. It makes it much, much easier for me to give good advice this way (you could say I can’t give good advice without the sorting options). Try PadListener to sync if you’re on Android (if it works for you), otherwise use this method.
• Box/roll questions that don’t supply rank, IAP status and main teams will be ignored. Any other information you want to supply will only help.
• Please check the FAQ after the break before asking a question. Questions that aren’t covered by the FAQ will be prioritized; questions that don’t may be ignored.
• WordPress flags comments with multiple links. I still get the comment, I just have to approve it manually for it to show up on the site. So if your comment doesn’t show up, this might be the case. Ideally, only post a single link to your PADherder.
• I generally reply on a first come, first serve basis, but if there’s a low hanging fruit I’ll address that first.
• I will post a comment in bold red when I stop taking questions for the day or end the post altogether. Please look for and respect these cutoffs before posting! I’ll allow questions after the day 1 cutoff to queue up for the next day, but no new questions will be taken after the day 2 cutoff.
• No new questions will be taken after the godfest ends. Questions asked in other posts may be ignored; please wait for the next godfest!
• Follow-ups to existing questions will be taken as long as the post is still open for comments.
• I’ll close the post for comments a few hours after the godfest ends.
• Any comments breaking the rules will be removed without warning.

Godfest Help Post: 5/15-5/16

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon combinations.

Godfest: Norse & Constellation 1 5/15, Chinese & Constellation 2 5/16
Criteria		Day 1		Day 2
		Norse	Const. 1	Chinese	Const. 2
Leader	Individual	A	B+	B+	C+
	Combined	A		B-
Sub	Individual	B+	B+	B+	B-
	Combined	B+		B
Overall	Individual	A	B+	B+	C+
	Combined	A		B

This is a help thread, so please feel free to ask questions about just about anything concerning the godfest or your teams, box and progress in general.

In the past, it seemed like GungHo would up their godfest game whenever a PCGF was around the corner in an attempt to drain us of a few stones before the big event. Not so much this time as the lineups are pretty underwhelming. Maybe they all of a sudden hate money or maybe they’re trying to get out of the way of the FF Collab. Whatever the reason, it’s a shame that we didn’t get a quality godfest for those players whom the PCGF is not great for.

Anyways, here are the rules:

• I will only take box questions that supply a PADherder. It makes it much, much easier for me to give good advice this way (you could say I can’t give good advice without the sorting options). Try PadListener to sync if you’re on Android (if it works for you), otherwise use this method.
• Box/roll questions that don’t supply rank, IAP status and main teams will be ignored. Any other information you want to supply will only help.
• Please check the FAQ after the break before asking a question. Questions that aren’t covered by the FAQ will be prioritized; questions that don’t may be ignored.
• WordPress flags comments with multiple links. I still get the comment, I just have to approve it manually for it to show up on the site. So if your comment doesn’t show up, this might be the case.
• I generally reply on a first come, first serve basis, but if there’s a low hanging fruit I’ll address that first.
• I will post a comment in bold red when I stop taking questions for the day or end the post altogether. Please look for and respect these cutoffs before posting! I’ll allow questions after the day 1 cutoff to queue up for the next day, but no new questions will be taken after the day 2 cutoff.
• No new questions will be taken after the godfest ends. Questions asked in other posts may be ignored; please wait for the next godfest!
• Follow-ups to existing questions will be taken as long as the post is still open for comments.
• I’ll close the post for comments a few hours after the godfest ends.

Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 2/3/16

Leads

Changes from 2/1: Awoken Pandora A+→S

SS
S
A+
A

Subs

Changes from 2/1: None.

SS
S
A+

The Game8 list

It’s times like these that I want to stop these Game8 posts. I don’t know what’s worse: that they would misevaluate Pandora at A+ or that they’d so easily retract their original opinion and move her to S.

To clarify, whether they’re right or wrong with this change is irrelevant because, yes, opinions are opinions. What I want from any source is a certain level of assurance that their opinion is well researched and reflects their best effort was put forth to develop said opinion. Releasing an opinion the same day of a card’s release then revising it a couple days later does not inspire confidence in their opinion. It smells of them making a knee-jerk opinion then following it up with another one. What actually happened here is irrelevant because not only will we never know, it’s the appearances that matter because it affects how I perceive all of their opinions. Game8 has had a dubious reputation for a while now, but something like this particularly disappoints me. Who’s to say that this new grade was well researched? Who’s to say any of their opinions are well researched? Well, this may just be me making a mountain out of a molehill, but these Game8 posts have been questionable for a while so I’ll take any excuse to end them.

Anyone have some suggestions for other tier lists? I’ve been kinda following GameWith and they seem okay, but they don’t seem to update very often. I know there were some other sites, but I never bookmarked them. I guess in the end they’re all basically the same.

Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 2/1/16

Leads

Changes from 1/27: Awoken Pandora debuts at A+

SS
S
A+
A

Subs

Changes from 1/27: None. Cao Cao still not appearing at A+, removing him until they add him back (if ever). 2/2: Pandora added to A+

SS
S
A+

The Game8 list

It’s no surprise that Pandora made the leader list, especially since she appears to be similar to Lucifer at first glance, but the real question is why is she ranked lower than him?

It also appears that they aren’t going to make any drastic changes regarding Arena 2. Which is fine, but considering they used to stress the endgame so much it seems a bit strange. It should be interesting to see how skill transfer affects their list.

Godfest Help Post: 1/31-2/1

New: 

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon combinations.

Godfest: Constellations & Norse 1/31, Sengoku & Angels 2/1
Criteria		Day 1		Day 2
		Constellations	Norse	Sengoku	Angels
Leader	Individual	B+	A	B	B-
	Combined	A		B-
Sub	Individual	B+	B+	B	B
	Combined	B+		B
Overall	Individual	B+	A	B	B-
	Combined	A+		B-

Let’s try this help thread again, except with some rules this time.

• I will prioritize box questions that supply a PADherder. It makes it much, much easier for me to give good advice this way. Try PadListener if you’re on Android (if it works for you), otherwise use this method.
• Box/roll questions that don’t supply rank, IAP status and teams will be ignored. Any other information you want to supply will only help.
• Please check the FAQ after the break before asking a question. Questions that aren’t covered by the FAQ will be prioritized.
• WordPress flags comments when multiple links. I still get the comment, I just have to approve it manually for it to show up on the site. So if your comment doesn’t show up, this might be the case.

Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 1/27/16

Leads

Changes from 1/13: Some fire dude added to A

SS
S
A+
A

Subs

Changes from 1/13: Cao Cao S→A+ (allegedly), Sanada Yukimura added to S, Eschamali added to S, Akechi Mitsuhide added to S

SS
S
A+

The Game8 list

Doesn’t look like they made any Arena 2-related changes, which is a bit disappointing.

Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 1/13/16

Leads

Changes from 1/7: Astaroth S→A+

SS
S
A+
A

Subs

Changes from 1/7: None | The new MP Dragon Ragnarok is still an A+ sub, but there’s no official icon for it yet.

SS
S
A+

The Game8 list

Sounds about right.

Instead of bashing the list as usual, let’s speculate who could get some love with the release of Arena 2.

	Delays have always been good in the Arena — particularly against Parvati and Sopdet — and they’re also good against two of the biggest new hurdles: the PreDras and Vishnu (too bad delays don’t work against Ilsix). He’s more relevant than other delays since his four turns gives you the time you need to combat bad RNG. His biggest downside, which will probably keep him from rising higher, is the lack of a skill bind resist. I’d be surprised if Orochi doesn’t make the next sub list at A+. Perhaps he’s too niche for Game8’s list, but his newfound value shouldn’t be ignored.
	Lucifer’s true damage is one of the best ways for dark teams to deal with the PreDras without sacrificing too much else. The power of his god killer should not be overlooked, either. As a leader, I don’t think he’ll make SS, but it wouldn’t surprise me to see SS go away soon; Lucifer should remain in S if it does. I don’t think Lucifer is an auto-include in the sub list — A+ is a pretty high bar now — but if Yomi Dragon retains its Arena throne, Lucifer will probably be a part of it.
	It’s a wonder how she wasn’t high on the sub list before, but now that’s she’s almost required to give Yomi Dragon the requisite damage in the Arena 2, I don’t think Game8 can snub her anymore. Her orb change also allows the team to drop Haku for more utility, like Lucifer and a gravity, since she can take care of gimmicks like Beelzebub’s full poison while providing sufficient burst. Her relatively high HP is also a big deal.
	I doubt Neptune Dragon will make the sub list, but it’s worth noting that BSonia and Ryune-I&I teams are relying on him to get past the PreDras. I’d expect Awoken Meimei is a good reason, too.
	This is another speculation that won’t make the list, but any previously marginal sub with dark resists will get a second look as the necessary defense to survive DQ Hera’s preemptive has gone up considerably.
	As much I’ve hated on Kanna in the past, her damage may be needed more now than ever. As teams use sub-optimal subs to handle the various hurdles, something like Kanna can help make up the lost damage while also providing a relevant boost on the Kalis. It wouldn’t surprise me to see her as an A+ sub again in the future.
	It seems unlikely this will ever make it, but if it does I’ll be really, really sad.

And that’s all I care to go over for now. Feel free to let me know your own suggestions in the comments.

PAD Z Collab Z Difficulty 10x Farming – Cloud System

After much research on YouTube, I couldn’t find a team that I liked for PAD Z farming. I like this Cloud System setup with Amaterasu since you don’t have to heal via matches on floor 5 if you get the gravity, but floor 6 and 7 can be sketchy sometimes damage-wise without Ilm. I was considering Kiriko or even non-attackers like Saria, Apoc, XQ or Sun Wukong to guarantee hearts, but I just don’t care enough. In the end, it might just be better to use Shiva Dragon or something, but I don’t plan to farm this very much so I’m not going to put in the effort to find out.