Godfest Help Post: 10/31-11/1

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon combinations. Grades do not factor co-op or skill inheritance at this time.

Godfest: Archangels & Indian 2 10/31, Angels & Sengoku 11/1
Criteria		Day 1		Day 2
		Archangels	Indian 2	Angels	Sengoku
Leader	Individual	C	A-	C	B
	Combined	B-		C+
Sub	Individual	B	B	B	A-
	Combined	B		B+
Overall	Individual	C+	B+	C+	B+
	Combined	B		B

This is a help thread, so please feel free to ask questions on just about anything concerning the godfest or your teams, box and progress in general.

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• I will only take box questions that supply a PADherder. It makes it much, much easier for me to give good advice this way (you could say I can’t give good advice without the sorting options). Try PadListener to sync if you’re on Android (if it works for you), otherwise use this method.
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Godfest Help Post: 8/31-9/2

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon combinations.

Godfest: Japanese 2 & Indian 2 8/31, Egypt 1 & Constellation 9/1, Greco-Roman & Angels 9/2
Criteria		Day 1		Day 2		Day 3
		Japan 2	India 2	Egypt 1	Const 1	Greek 1	Angels
Leader	Indiv.	B+	B	A-	B	C+	C
	Comb.	B+		B+		D
Sub	Indiv.	B	B-	C	A-	C+	B
	Comb.	B-		B		C+
Overall	Indiv.	B	B	B	A-	C	C+
	Comb.	B		B+		D

This is a help thread, so please feel free to ask questions on just about anything concerning the godfest or your teams, box and progress in general.

Despite GFEs being at 4x rates, this godfest is all-around pretty bad which is only compounded by JP Dragoncallers only being featured on day 2.

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Please read the rules before posting, especially if this is your first time:

• I will only take box questions that supply a PADherder. It makes it much, much easier for me to give good advice this way (you could say I can’t give good advice without the sorting options). Try PadListener to sync if you’re on Android (if it works for you), otherwise use this method.
• Box/roll questions that don’t supply rank, IAP status and main teams will be ignored. Any other information you want to supply will only help.
• Please check the FAQ after the break before asking a question. Questions that aren’t covered by the FAQ will be prioritized; questions that don’t may be ignored.
• WordPress flags comments with multiple links. I still get the comment, I just have to approve it manually for it to show up on the site. So if your comment doesn’t show up, this might be the case. Ideally, only post a single link to your PADherder.
• I generally reply on a first come, first serve basis, but if there’s a low hanging fruit I’ll address that first.
• I will post thread status as bold red comments. Make sure you read these comments before posting to make sure you aren’t violating the rules. I’m no longer segregating comments by day, instead I’ll indicate how many questions I be able to take for a given thread in the first status comment, then stop taking new ones after that.
• No new questions will be taken after the godfest ends. Questions asked in other posts may be ignored; please wait for the next godfest!
• Follow-ups to existing questions will be taken as long as the post is still open for comments.
• I’ll close the post for comments a few hours after the godfest ends.
• Any comments breaking the rules will be removed without warning.

Godfest Help Post: 1/31-2/1

New: 

Grading scale. The individual grade is a composite grade of all monsters in it relative to all other pantheons. The combined grade is a composite of all monsters in both pantheons relative to all other combinations of pantheons. Combined grades are not an average of the individual grades, but based on the normal distribution of all possible two-pantheon combinations.

Godfest: Constellations & Norse 1/31, Sengoku & Angels 2/1
Criteria		Day 1		Day 2
		Constellations	Norse	Sengoku	Angels
Leader	Individual	B+	A	B	B-
	Combined	A		B-
Sub	Individual	B+	B+	B	B
	Combined	B+		B
Overall	Individual	B+	A	B	B-
	Combined	A+		B-

Let’s try this help thread again, except with some rules this time.

• I will prioritize box questions that supply a PADherder. It makes it much, much easier for me to give good advice this way. Try PadListener if you’re on Android (if it works for you), otherwise use this method.
• Box/roll questions that don’t supply rank, IAP status and teams will be ignored. Any other information you want to supply will only help.
• Please check the FAQ after the break before asking a question. Questions that aren’t covered by the FAQ will be prioritized.
• WordPress flags comments when multiple links. I still get the comment, I just have to approve it manually for it to show up on the site. So if your comment doesn’t show up, this might be the case.

Farmable Monster Analysis: Volsung

Where to start with Volsung? We all know how powerful an LKali effect can be and now we can finally farm one. Unfortunately, he’s much worse than he looks. His debuff makes him incredibly difficult to place on any random team. The team building constraint of dedicating a sub slot to overwrite his debuff is a high cost. He also lacks synergy with the most popular rainbow subs. As a leader, 36x with no other multipliers just doesn’t cut it in today’s endgame. The nail in the coffin is the cost to acquire then skill him up. For the same difficulty you’re almost always better off investing in a Zaerog∞. Before you invest in a Volsung, think long and hard about whether he’s worth it; for most players he isn’t.

Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 1/7/15

Leads

Changes from 1/4: Freyr added as pair for Raoh, Parvati A+→A, A-tier completely revamped: Ilm added, Kanna added, Juggler added, HKali added, RKali added, Eschamali added, New Year’s Amaterasu added, New Year’s Kanna added, Vegito removed, Sarasvati removed, Osiris removed, Rinshia removed, Hathor removed, Zaerog∞ removed

SS
S
A+
A

Subs

Changes from 1/4: A+ revamp: DMeta A→A+, Leilan A→A+, Karin A→A+, Amaterasu A→A+, Artemis A→A+, Phoenix Rider removed, Christmas Liu Bei removed, Baggi removed, Liu Bei removed, Kanna removed, Zaerog∞ removed, Eschamali removed, A-tier removed: Sanada, Set, Kagutsuchi, Andromeda, Orochi, Famiel, BSnnia, Verdandi, Kaede, Astaroth, GSonia, Ilm, Ariel, Indra, Izanagi, Summer Pandora, Zuoh, Pandora, Akechi all removed | The new MP Dragon Ragnarok debuts as an A+ sub, but there’s no official icon for it yet.

SS
S
A+

The Game8 list

So, this is a pretty substantial update to their tier list. Not only are the tiers now synced with their site’s actual monster ratings instead of “just eyeballing it”, there is now a panel of three writers that give reasons for the grade, although from what I can tell their explanations don’t really tell us that much. The weakness of my Japanese — and Google’s, for that matter — will become even more apparent. It’d probably be a good idea to get someone fluent to actually help me with these posts now, but that feels like it’d just be a flat out pain in the ass for both of us.

SS-tier is added to the sub list and the A-tier is removed. I’m not entirely sure why they had to add SS, but whatever floats their boat. There are some things I don’t necessarily agree with (Eschamali omitted, Artemis included, Cao Cao and Satsuki still at S), but the list looks better than it used to (cya, Liu Bei). I’ll still say sub lists are rather pointless, though, since what subs are good for a particular lead or leads is the important thing, not how good they are relative to each other with no context.

The leader list, however, finally got rid of that horrible game of musical chairs at A and is much better for it. While some entries may be questionable, I don’t have any huge problems with the new list. If it wasn’t obvious before, it’s now easy to see that light and dark are totally dominating the game now that token leaders from each element are no longer cluttering A.

Considering they just changed the format and I’m still debating what I want to do with this post series, I’ll once again pass on discussing the specifics until a later time.

Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 1/4/15

Leads

Changes from 12/29: Ra S→A+, Astaroth A+→S, Archdemon Lucifer A+→S

SS
S
A+
A

Subs

Changes from 12/29: None

S
A+
A

The Game8 list

Keeping this quick, but I may add to it later. I never expected Ra to get booted out of S. Is he really worse than the rest of the new S-tier? I also never expected Astaroth or Lucifer to make it to S. I was already planning on making teams for them, but now I’m even more intrigued. I definitely plan on doing some research once I get back home.

Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 12/29/15

Leads

Changes from 12/24: Archdemon Lucifer debuts at A+, Levi A+→A, New Year’s Horus debuts at A, Goemon removed, Eschamali removed

SS
S
A+
A

Subs

Changes from 12/24: Vishnu S→A+, Head Rococo S→A+, HKali S→A+, DMeta added to A

S
A+
A

The Game8 list

No comments this time, just documenting the changes. I’ll gladly respond to any comments, though.

Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 12/24/15

Leads

Changes from 12/11: Lakshmi added to A+, Gon A+→A, Parvati added to A+, Astaroth A→A+, Ilm removed, Cloud removed, Juggler removed, Typhon A+→A, HKali removed, Goemon added to A, Scarlet removed, Rinshia debuts at A, LKali removed, Kanna removed

SS
S
A+
A

Subs

Changes from 12/11: Head Rococo A→S (not removed from A for some reason)

S
A+
A

The Game8 list

I haven’t really been keeping up with the PAD meta lately due to Christmas stuff, so I’m going to keep this one very short. Which is somewhat unfortunate because there were many juicy changes

Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 12/11/15

Leads

Changes from 11/29: Lakshmi removed, Eschamali debuts at A

SS
S
A+
A

Subs

Changes from 11/29: Kagutsuchi A+→A, Christmas Liu Bei debuts at A+, Eschamali debuts at A+, Sanada Yukimura added to A, Belial removed, Skuld removed, Perseus removed, Astaroth added to A

S
A+
A

The Game8 list

There’s a lot to cover in PAD right now, both in-game and for this blog, so I’m going to keep my comments on this even shorter than usual.

Thoughts on the Game8 JP Tier List 12/4/15

Leads

Changes from 11/29: BSonia debuts at A+

SS
S
A+
A

Subs

Changes from 11/29: Okuninushi added to S, Sylvie debuts at A+, Belial debuts at A, Urd removed, BSonia debuts at A, GSonia debuts at A, GZL removed, Ilm added to A, Apollo removed, Lumiel removed

S
A+
A

The Game8 list

Apparently, Game8 approved of the last round of uevos.